Damned minraises !

[aislephive]

Villain is some donk playing like 30/5. A little bit ago after he sat down he called my button raise and c/f to my cbet, other than that no history. One thing that struck me as odd was he instantly checked the turn, like super quickly.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $473.00
BB: $106.30
UTG: $364.40
CO: $400.00
Hero (BTN): $435.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, SB calls $14.00, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, SB calls $30.00

Turn: ($96) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $78.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $156.00</font>, Hero ???

[gir]

8s7s. Duh.

I call and re-evaluate river...but maybe that's a leak in my game.

[FBP]

He's not knowingly value raising any less than QQ (perhaps JJ at worst) imo. By the turn he should be expecting you to have KT+ a lot, and the occasional 2nd barrel/semibluff. So he probably expect to get paid off here. And if he really wanted to bluff the flop was probably a much safer place than this turn which help a lots of hands.

Could he be doing a stupid raise with like 5x, 4x or some random stuff like a floated QJ? I'd say it's very unlikely due to bet sizing mostly, people rarely bluff minraise in my book, especially OOP.

Looks like a fold to me, although i do hate minraise and may very well get valuetowned here in situ.

[David1234]

fold...

[DTD]

Donks who play like this, with min-raises etc, having a full stack kinda freaks me out, so sometimes I pay off but against most folding probably is better I guess.

[freeucm]

fold, dont even bother calling.

[Unknown Soldier]

one of those wale thingys

[freeucm]

once u eat one piece of popcorn u have to eat more.

[ogdundar]

Is it an option to call here and hope he checks the river? IMHO, these minraises often tend to be weak/drawing hands and few have the balls to fire the river.

[freeucm]

Once we start believing players are making these min raises with OESD, flush draw weak hands etc, we start spewing chips even though QQ is a good hand, if we flat call here we can not call a river bet. So why even bother calling here, when most players dont keep pots small and fire out bets.