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Old 05-30-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default QQ, Bet A flop?

Stars $1/2. I have $227, villain has $228. Im in the BB with red QQ. folds to CO who has $700 and has been raising a ton makes it $8. Button (Villain) smooth calls. SB folds, I make it $24 to go (just right? too small? too big?)

CO quickly mucks and button calls.

Flop is Ac5c5s
Pot($57)

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Old 05-30-2006, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

I would have went $35-$40. QQ is hard to play OOP against 2 people. As played I bet $40 and hope he folds.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:02 PM
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I dont have a much of a read on button besides that Ive reraised preflop with 99 before against the guy with $700, he called, the flop came 10 high and he mucked after I bet 3/4ths of the pot. He seems reasonable, but not the type that would fold A10-AK here.

Ive reraised the $700 guy a few times with 99,AK,QQ, and KQ once (the kQ didnt see a flop), so he is maybe starting to get tired of folding solid hands.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

I would only call the pre-flop $8 raise. Don't get too excited with your ladies, because when the Ace comes on the flop, they look like tramps.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:08 PM
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I would only call the pre-flop $8 raise. Don't get too excited with your ladies, because when the Ace comes on the flop, they look like tramps.

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I disagree. Hopefully others will discuss this, because quite frankly I dont want the big stack to see cheap flops raising his K9 suited or A4 suited and getting to see $8 flops with it. I feel my hand needs a little protection.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

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I would only call the pre-flop $8 raise. Don't get too excited with your ladies, because when the Ace comes on the flop, they look like tramps.

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I disagree. Hopefully others will discuss this, because quite frankly I dont want the big stack to see cheap flops raising his K9 suited or A4 suited and getting to see $8 flops with it. I feel my hand needs a little protection.

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I agree, you are setting yourself up for a possible disaster by doing this. I think this hand would be very difficult to play if you dont raise.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

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I would only call the pre-flop $8 raise. Don't get too excited with your ladies, because when the Ace comes on the flop, they look like tramps.

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I disagree. Hopefully others will discuss this, because quite frankly I dont want the big stack to see cheap flops raising his K9 suited or A4 suited and getting to see $8 flops with it. I feel my hand needs a little protection.

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Generally, OOP I will reraise bigger than if I had position.

I like a raise to around $40 preflop. Given that you didn't I bet the flop whatever you have been cont betting previously (3/4 pot?).
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

If I have Ax suited, I'll call your bet. If thats your strategy, it needs to be alot bigger re-raise.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:19 PM
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If I have Ax suited, I'll call your bet. If thats your strategy, it needs to be alot bigger re-raise.

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Thats incredibly loose to me and if you hit your ace you are going to be living in fear of AJ-AK.

Ive been betting about 3/4s of pot, yes.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: QQ, Bet A flop?

I agree that a raise is the only way to go, but if you raise more than you would have done usually, players will notice that you really want them to pay for a flop and put you on TT-KK.

PFR is fine, I'd bet $40 and hope he folds as some one else said. Check fold to a call/raise.
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