how u proceed? KK on q high flop

[hirschi]

i dont like this spots.. if i push it im makeing money in the long run right?
if i put villain on JJ+ what you do?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($47)
MP2 ($59.80)
CO ($26.55)
Button ($44.25)
SB ($40.15)
BB ($47.80)
UTG ($41.25)
UTG+1 ($49.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($22.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks

[Sam Spade]

You got the exact SPR you wanted for an easy commitment. Bet $16 and call his push. Obviously you will lose to the rivered flush, so go ahead and pick up your mouse Nolan Ryan style on the turn.

[skibbel]

Bet/call nothing else makes sense.

[TwistedEcho]

cbet like $17 and snapcall his shove, shove pretty much every turn if he coldcalls.

[Fazz86]

Like sam said, perfect SPR to make an easy committment decision, cbet.

[hirschi]

ok, thank you!

[AbreuTime]

1) Don't fold. Not deep enough to consider it.
2) I check flop. He rarely has a hand like AQ (that would stack off when you cbet); most likely has a pocket pair. You get stacked by AA, QQ, and most other hands fold if you bet flop. To get value from worse hands, and due to the fact that you have only 1.5x PSB left, you can check flop and still stack worse hands.
3) He openraised to 6x bb UTG+1 in full ring. Um, his range for calling the 3bet is pretty snug. And a check is the only way to get value from worse hands. I think a push is -EV (Edit: unless you have a maniac image).

[Marlow]

I agree with everyone else in this thread, but I do have a question about op.

Why do you put him on JJ+? People make this call preflop with a wide range of hands at the $.50. You could give him credit for any PP, almost any A, and a few funky hands like KTs+.

Do you use a HUD? Did you have any stats for the guy?

[hirschi]

thanks alot..thats what i thought after it..

i pushed flop and got stacked by qq

i also think push is -ev now- but is this for sure? on other hand i raised kk and stacked someone holding jq with j hit..this time i cbet the flop and pushed to his raise..

all a question of reads mayb. i hope i get my PO to work again with ps ;D

[SnglMaltScotch]

I cbet like normal here. A check behind is SOOO suspicious. Why would you not C-bet this board. $17 and get a lot more in if available to you.