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Old 11-03-2007, 08:41 PM
hoppscot22 hoppscot22 is offline
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Edit: I obviously suck at posting PT screenshots.


Wazfactor2 from 10/02 and 10/07.

definitely not cheating
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:51 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to LIVELETDIE22 [4d 2c]
ANECHKA - Raises $50 to $50
CALVINHOBBES - Folds
CONTIGER - Folds
SPONSOR - Calls $35
LIVELETDIE22 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Js 2h]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $25
SPONSOR - Calls $25
*** TURN *** [5d Js 2h] [3s]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $50
SPONSOR - Raises $100 to $100
ANECHKA - Raises $100 to $150
SPONSOR - Calls $50
*** RIVER *** [5d Js 2h 3s] [Jh]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $50
SPONSOR - Calls $50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ANECHKA - Shows [3c 3h] (Full house, threes full of jacks)
SPONSOR - Mucks
ANECHKA Collects $572 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($575) | Rake ($3)
Board [5d Js 2h 3s Jh]
Seat 1: CALVINHOBBES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: CONTIGER (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: SPONSOR (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [Kd 9c]


i dunno...

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show's over, nothing to see here
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:01 PM
ibluffoldladies ibluffoldladies is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to LIVELETDIE22 [4d 2c]
ANECHKA - Raises $50 to $50
CALVINHOBBES - Folds
CONTIGER - Folds
SPONSOR - Calls $35
LIVELETDIE22 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Js 2h]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $25
SPONSOR - Calls $25
*** TURN *** [5d Js 2h] [3s]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $50
SPONSOR - Raises $100 to $100
ANECHKA - Raises $100 to $150
SPONSOR - Calls $50
*** RIVER *** [5d Js 2h 3s] [Jh]
SPONSOR - Checks
ANECHKA - Bets $50
SPONSOR - Calls $50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ANECHKA - Shows [3c 3h] (Full house, threes full of jacks)
SPONSOR - Mucks
ANECHKA Collects $572 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($575) | Rake ($3)
Board [5d Js 2h 3s Jh]
Seat 1: CALVINHOBBES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: CONTIGER (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: SPONSOR (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [Kd 9c]


i dunno...

[/ QUOTE ]

show's over, nothing to see here

[/ QUOTE ]

not so fast. Couldn't this be a hand early in the session where he wants to look like a donk? Why would the show be over?

EDIT: I think the evidence is in the total profits from his sessions. If they are all +, then the show is still going on.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:06 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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not so fast. Couldn't this be a hand early in the session where he wants to look like a donk? Why would the show be over?

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show me one hand where any of the 5 other accounts wanted to establish table image or some such crap

also, VPIP 72 != VPIP 95
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Dan Druff Dan Druff is offline
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I admit that the evidence seems to lean against him being a cheater. Still, I am troubled by my personal feelings from my sessions versus him, and especially suspicious that he seemed to vanish right before GRAYCAT showed up.

Does ANYONE have a hand with him after August 20th?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:10 PM
Dan Druff Dan Druff is offline
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Also, when are we going to find out ALL THE ACCOUNT NAMES that AP concluded to have cheated?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:10 PM
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Dan-
it really looks like you are dragging someones name through the mud with little evidence other than he owned the site for awhile. This bothers me a lot because I'm one of those players who owned AP for awhile and it seems that I could be next to be pulled into the witchhunt. If you have solid evidence against somebody than by all means expose them, but please realize that due to your high profile in this investigation you have the ability to do harm to real people and you should treat this power carefully
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:12 PM
ibluffoldladies ibluffoldladies is offline
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agreed adanthar, but vpip of 72 might turn into 95 if you've been getting away with it for so long. Look, you might be right on this. All I'm saying is that it can't be dismissed outright because of this one hand. In cases like this, if you assume the house is playing accounts, you have to look at complete sessions instead of individual hands. That seems fair don't you think?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:15 PM
mntbikr15 mntbikr15 is offline
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Sponsor isnt a cheat account, I kill him all the time at 25/50 HU 08

edit- and theres no [censored] way he can see my cards
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:16 PM
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ya hes lost a lot of money to me at O8 too lolz
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