Simple but frequent 3bet pot spot...

[Lefort]

I (as most) often like to 3bet suited hands and with 100bb stacks it can often lead to situations like this. Villain is a TAG reg.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $960
BB: $3212
UTG: $1698
MP: $1953.25
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1038</font>
BTN: $1012

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $111</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $76

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($237) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks

I flop a naked flush draw. If I pot the flop and get CRai, I have $680 to call to win $1400, essentially getting very close to the right odds to call for my probable 9-outer. Do people like a check here? If so, do you bet (if checked to) a 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] turn? What do you do if villain leads turn? What if stacks are closer to $1300 or $1400 where if you get CRai on the flop you have to fold?

Just wondering how people like to handle this situation..

[RiverHebrew2]

Play the hand as you would play AK, AA, and KK in this spot- so bet ~$175. If he c/rai, you should fold, but you have to take a shot at this pot, and build it so in case he calls you can rele win something if you make your flush. If you're going t reraise with a hand like j8s, you can't check behind the flop when you have control int he hand and you get a pretty decent flop.

[Lefort]

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If you're going to reraise with a hand like j8s, you can't check behind the flop when you have control int he hand and you get a pretty decent flop.

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I disagree, but I won't explain until there's a bunch of responses..

[xorbie]

I definitely like to mix in some checks here, they'll never believe you have the flush if you do hit.

[My_Name_Is_Hov]

def mix in a few checks... but i bet 220/call a push

[bigt439]

i check a lot here... but i check alot of hands behind in reraised pots so it fits nicely into my game... i will fire the turn, which also fits in nicely to my game... i would call most turn bets because they will often be too small... i fire/check against certain types of opponents and it helps to make people think i fire/check against all types of opponents even tho its usually not the case...

[Overfloater]

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def mix in a few checks... but i bet 220/call a push

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terrible

[Kristian]

I think it depends a whole lot on the villain. The fact that he is TAG reg is not enough information to make a really qualified decision. It is vital to know how often he makes this call preflop.

My default is to c-bet turn, the value of representing a very strong hand is so big IMO, that I can take the risk of being pushed off my draw. Also, a lot of the time he will just call/float here if he has something, and I will consider pushing any turn in that case.

Btw, a 3-gapper is probably too weak for me to 3-bet here, there will be better opportunities.

[rand]

i usually bet flop...
if flop goes c-c i bet turn
if called on flop i usually check turn
those are my defaults-but i agree i think id like something other than J8s here though (as far as pf goes)

[Baracus]

I don't understand the fuzz about rr ip with J8s. To me it's a perfect hand to do it with since it's one of the stronger hands that I don't call a raise with.