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| I'm not sure. |
  
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| Just show me the results / I'm not in the league |
  
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#2921
09-08-2007, 11:21 PM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I doubt Arod would even be league average at SS anymore. His skills have eroded. [/ QUOTE ] the thing is, jeter is so ridiculously far from league average it would still be an upgrade. not today, obviously, but if arod stays, how could the yankees not seriously consider telling him to get into shortstop shape? [/ QUOTE ] because they have done fine with Jeter at SS. [/ QUOTE ] that is stupid reasoning and if a team thinks like that they arent going to stay ahead of the competition in the long term [/ QUOTE ] They will if they are the Yankees. There are far greater concerns for the Yankees than Derek Jeter's defense at SS. Moving Jeter would be far far worse for the organization and team than keeping him at SS would be. 
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#2923
09-10-2007, 12:36 AM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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LOL @ Tweety's A-Rod HR total bet [/ QUOTE ] god, i can't believe he didn't take the out at $550. so -EV.
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#2924
09-10-2007, 12:47 AM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I doubt Arod would even be league average at SS anymore. His skills have eroded. [/ QUOTE ] the thing is, jeter is so ridiculously far from league average it would still be an upgrade. not today, obviously, but if arod stays, how could the yankees not seriously consider telling him to get into shortstop shape? [/ QUOTE ] because they have done fine with Jeter at SS. [/ QUOTE ] that is stupid reasoning and if a team thinks like that they arent going to stay ahead of the competition in the long term [/ QUOTE ] They will if they are the Yankees. There are far greater concerns for the Yankees than Derek Jeter's defense at SS. Moving Jeter would be far far worse for the organization and team than keeping him at SS would be. [/ QUOTE ] this is true. but i'd like to add that part of jeter's value is due to outstanding offensive production at a skill position. so batting runs+defensive runs is still way high, and arguably second to only the guy at 3B. now, an average CF is no more productive than an average SS (i am guessing, i don't have stats to back this up right now), so you could argue that if his offensive production stays the same, Jeter's total value would be even more. all of this is speculative. overall, i think Cash has already looked at the total value of Jeter@SS+ARod@3B+replacement level@OF vs. that of Jeter@OF+ARod@SS+replacement level@3B. i actually think the former is more valuable, but once again, i don't have numbers right now. having said all that, i think if Torre is out next year, there will serious talk within the organization of moving Jeter to RF or even 1B. Melky is CF, and LF is crowded with Matsui and Damon. who knows who might fill in at SS, but is won't be angellini. probably not Gonzales.
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#2926
09-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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again, and for the last time.... wang and bonderman are very close in terms of effectiveness at this time and 'I' think bonderman will be better going forward.....to a noticeable degree. you can of course disagree, but since i am using PECOTA as my prediction machine, you will probably end up being wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Wang chalked up his 18th win yesterday. Anyone know how Bonderman did?
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#2927
09-10-2007, 09:58 AM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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[ QUOTE ] again, and for the last time.... wang and bonderman are very close in terms of effectiveness at this time and 'I' think bonderman will be better going forward.....to a noticeable degree. you can of course disagree, but since i am using PECOTA as my prediction machine, you will probably end up being wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Wang chalked up his 18th win yesterday. Anyone know how Bonderman did? [/ QUOTE ] im pretty sure you are sarcastically asking that question toro but im going to answer anyways bonderman is probably out for the season just in time for my [censored] fantasy playoffs sdfhwaery234hywerh
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#2928
09-10-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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having said all that, i think if Torre is out next year, there will serious talk within the organization of moving Jeter to RF or even 1B. [/ QUOTE ] There will not be serious talks about moving Jeter any time soon. This is still Jeter's team.
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#2929
09-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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Re: ~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~
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[ QUOTE ] having said all that, i think if Torre is out next year, there will serious talk within the organization of moving Jeter to RF or even 1B. [/ QUOTE ] There will not be serious talks about moving Jeter any time soon. This is still Jeter's team. [/ QUOTE ] unfortunately this is true, but his latest injuries have made him even worse on defense than before.
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