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Old 08-16-2007, 12:00 AM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default JJ A high flop

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Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

I normally check behind, but I'm bad at betting rivers. :-|

Even so, I think it's the right play, he would have to be raising something like K9 preflop and calling down a 3-bet with A-high for this to be a value bet.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:52 AM
sebastien sebastien is offline
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

the value bet really depend about vilain.
so vilain is unknow....
i think check and see how he play.
you win really few hand open raiser WHO CALL A RIVER BET HERE( 88, 99 TT) and rarely K9s
you losse A9 AT AJ AQ AK
don t think unknow call river bet with flush draw missed with hand like KQ KJ more than 50%
and don t think unknow onpen raising connector suited and call down any paire hu oop really often.

you maybe missed a valu bet but really not often here.

it s more an Ax who call down or a flush draw.

so i check here.

but i think what i write you know that.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

Does it mean I suck if I say check behind turn call river?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

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Does it mean I suck if I say check behind turn call river?

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you really want to bet the turn and river here, so yeah don't do that.
then the 6 pairs and i dunno. its close.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:08 AM
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why do you bet??
what do you think vilain have??
more hand that i said?
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

standard check
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

He won't often call with a worse hand.
You 3 bet him preflop : there is a good chance that you have an ace =&gt; he won't call with a 9.

Furthermore a bet would give him an opportunity to raise if he had a 6.

I would Shrek here.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:45 AM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

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Does it mean I suck if I say check behind turn call river?

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you really want to bet the turn and river here, so yeah don't do that.
then the 6 pairs and i dunno. its close.

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huh? reread the pf action. this is an easy check against any non-showdownmonkeylags
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ A high flop

huh? reread the pf action. this is an easy check against any non-showdownmonkeylags

you check turn call river???
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