Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

[PJo336]

in any1 else surprised at the lack of doubledrag gimmicks in this thread?

[stompin]

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<font color="blue"> Hold Your Horses</font>
I'm going to post a HH that goes COUNTER to the current hypothesis. It's a hand where an opponent moves all in on the river, and ***DOUBLEDRAG CALLS WITH A WORSE HAND*** But not just any worse hand: bottom pair. On no planet does this make sense. It doesn't make sense if he CAN see hole cards, and it doesn't make sense if he CANT.

STAGE #756266573: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $30 - 2007-09-07 21:58:59 (ET)

Table: BEATY AVE (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer

Seat 5 - HOWDUZZYDOIT ($16.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - FRISCOMELT ($8301 in chips)
Seat 2 - FU_BEGGAR ($6000 in chips)
Seat 4 - DOUBLEDRAG ($2365 in chips)
FRISCOMELT - Posts small blind $15
FU_BEGGAR - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $90 to $90
HOWDUZZYDOIT - Folds
FRISCOMELT - Calls $75
FU_BEGGAR - Folds
*** FLOP *** [6d 4d Kc]
FRISCOMELT - Checks
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $90
FRISCOMELT - Calls $90
*** TURN *** [6d 4d Kc] [Jc]
FRISCOMELT - Checks
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $480
FRISCOMELT - Calls $480
*** RIVER *** [6d 4d Kc Jc] [2c]
<font color="red">FRISCOMELT - Bets $7170
DOUBLEDRAG - All-In $1705
FRISCOMELT - returned ($5465) : not called</font>
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FRISCOMELT - Shows [8c 7c] (Flush, king high)
DOUBLEDRAG - Mucks
FRISCOMELT Collects $4758 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($4760) | Rake ($2)
Board [6d 4d Kc Jc 2c]
Seat 1: FRISCOMELT (small blind) won Total ($4758) HI$4758) wit Flush, king high [8c 7c - B:Kc,B:Jc,P:8c,P:7c,B:2c]
Seat 2: FU_BEGGAR (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: DOUBLEDRAG HI: [Mucked] [Qs 2s]
Seat 5: HOWDUZZYDOIT (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

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It make sense if he he misread the board and thought his opponent was bluffing with 8 high.

[A2steaksauce]

I heard from 3 different players that they witnessed doubledrag dumping to romnaldo at 25/50nl and in the 5k HU SNGs. they said it was between 200k and 300k. I didn't see it myself, but I'm sure that they wouldn't make this up. Also, they came and told me about this on the 13th. I emailed AP about doubledrag's suspicious behavior the next day. Still no response from AP in any way.

[gemmer]

A few hands GRAYCAT lost. Btw these hands prove nothing, I was just going through the hands he lost and thought these were interesting.

<font color="blue"> Hand 1: nice try if he knew I had 77</font>

Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB


SB has Jd 5h (high card, ace).
Hero has 7c 7s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB.

<font color="blue"> Hand 2: MP1 is Schneids, MP2 is GRAYCAT. Most people would put more bets in with TP there.</font>

Absolute Poker 150/300 Hold'em (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.66 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (3.83 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (5.83 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 7.83 BB

MP1 has 9d Qd (two pair, queens and nines).
MP2 had Tc Qh (one pair, queens).

And two hands where he try's to fold out A-high

<font color="blue"> Hand 3: GRAYCAT is SB</font>

Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

SB has Tc 5s (one pair, threes).
Button has 9h As (one pair, threes).

<font color="blue"> Hand 4: GRAYCAT is UTG, Baronzeus is MP2</font>

Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

UTG has 5s 4d (one pair, twos).
MP2 has As 5d (one pair, twos).

[adanthar]

I'm off to play a bunch of donkaments at non-Absolute sites, have fun today y'all

[RiverFenix]

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Can one of the mods post in the thread on the mod forum requesting that any HSLHE players on ABS run a virus scanner on their computer? Just a general suggestion to the other high stakes players too that don't have mod access.


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[MYNAMEIZGREG]

I just got off the phone with Absolute support... I am making a post but it's basically a big WTF

[RichardHurtz]

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well, until this is settled why dont we just post about it in the most popular 2p2 forums? hopefully p5s and the other sites will start talking about this too. we can all tell our friends and they can tell their friends. lets get the word out quick - some online poker players can see your cards. hopefully people will get scared to play online. then, we can finally get some nice layovers in donkaments m i rite???

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imo this thread should be deleted / in mod forum

its pretty much 100% that he cheats, we dont really need much more evidence. this is just going to cause gossip and get ppl scared n stuff

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As they/we should

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Are you serious? This is an Online game. People have been hacking online games since they were invented. Are people really so ignorant that they would gamble for thousands of dollars in an online game, that is owned by a company overseas and without any regulation or oversight?

This individual just isn't very good at concealing his cheating. Hes so stupid its kind of funny.

But there are alot of people out there that arnt so stupid.

[tercet]

It cant be anything to do with a trojan, the person suspected has some sort of program located where the absolute servers are(Costa Rica?). The program relays the hands while their being played to the suspected player..