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Old 09-15-2007, 03:29 PM
bigslicknuts bigslicknuts is offline
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Default NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $151.40
BB: $22.55
Hero (UTG): $65.90
UTG+1: $92.00
MP1: $104.75
MP2: $101.05
CO: $43.25
BTN: $106.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 5 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($12) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, SB calls $8.00, BB folds

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $20.00</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

Bets more flop, bets the turn.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:52 AM
Ron Burgundy Ron Burgundy is offline
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

Rebuy pre-hand.

Bet 20ish on the turn. Did the J change anything?

Since you checked, it's much more difficult to tell if he's on a draw or not. I think you gotta call this (assuming no reads).
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:31 PM
Damntra Damntra is offline
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

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Bets more flop, bets the turn.

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I think flop bet is fine.

Definitely bet turn, though. Nice pot sized bet.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:19 PM
ncboiler ncboiler is offline
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

New to NL so I am still learning the game. That being said; Not betting the turn put you in a horrible position on the river. Villain is betting pretty much any river card.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

bet pot flop and 2/3 pot turn.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

By not betting closer to the pot on the flop you're both giving flushes better odds to draw, and not extracting as much as possible from those who either don't believe your cbet, or who have a worse Q.

Once called, you need to bet the turn. This isn't a good spot to practice pot control - there's a draw out that is well within his range. Sure, he might have a set, or he might have QJ, but they aren't more likely than a flush draw, a worse Q, or a PP. Bet 2/3 pot on the turn. If you get raised, reevaluate according to his tendencies (which you haven't included - they're important in deciding what to do on the river, given how you played).

As played, you beat KQ, QJ, and air on the river. Is he the sort of player likely to bet the river because it's a scare card for you? Is he the sort to bet even when he can only expect a call from a hand that beats him? You made this look very like a cbet from a hand that missed. Anyone aggressive or tricky is likely to bet, and you have to call them despite only getting 2.5:1. Classic example of how small mistakes on early streets can cause big mistakes on later ones.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

The only hand he beats that we beat is KQ in my opinion. So folding cant be too bad. I fold.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

bet turn, as played call river.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:20 PM
bigslicknuts bigslicknuts is offline
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Default Re: NL100: AQ on Q-high Board vs. Flush Rivercard

Is this a horrible spot to try to practice some pot control?
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