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#11
05-04-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
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Anyway I don't want to let him draw on the turn but I don't want to have to put in money on 2 more streets. So I'd ratehr bet/fold turn then chekc river and either call or fold depending on his bet size. Does that not look good? [/ QUOTE ] No, that is bad. Stack sizes are terrible to bet/fold the turn. You are better of check/folding or check/raising AI since draws are not a big part of his range. 
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#13
05-04-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
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[ QUOTE ] Ok I can't see the board. I just have big black squares where card values should be. [/ QUOTE ] Me too. [/ QUOTE ] Are you using Internet Explorer by any chance? If so, then you may have a problem viewing PNG graphics if you are using and older version of IE.
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#15
05-04-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
To be honest, i think his flat call on the flop is worse than if he pushed. If villain is the only solid player at the table, like you said, it wouldnt be much of a mystery to him that you're holding AA/KK.
Diamonds are in his range, but i do not think they are likely. Also, i would not rule out the 8 for reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. You're in a tough spot because if you check the turn, he'll bet into you, and you would not have gained any info on his hand... I think the best course of action is to make a ~ $15 bet and fold to a raise. If he calls, I shove any non-diamond non-queen, non-ace river I think its less than likely that villain would float you all the way to the river. Solid players like to protect their hands... Given the aggression you showed, and the money you invested, he has no reason to believe you'd fold for what would basically be a min-raise... but you're smart, so you will.
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#16
05-04-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
If you ruled out AA KK preflop then i definately like the 15 bet. I think this guy probably has AQ. My last question is why do you think this guy is solid, do you have any numbers on him or is this thru observation. IF so, how long have you been observing him?
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#17
05-04-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
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No, that is bad. Stack sizes are terrible to bet/fold the turn. You are better of check/folding or check/raising AI since draws are not a big part of his range. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree, but I'm interested to hear what you think his range is given his image, our image, and the action.
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#18
05-04-2007, 12:54 PM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
even tho its a long shot 8s could also be in his range
and Qs aswell his flat call merely looks like a slow play IMO i would put in his range AQ QQ 88 and AA because of the pot size bet he's not worried about you having 8s but will put you on either Qs or a bluf other cards then AQ QQ 88 AA i wouldnt see why he just flat calls even AQ is just merely in there i dont see what he flatt calls with except a Flush draw that you can beat bet on the turn and fold to a raise if he calls check/fold the river
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#19
05-04-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: NL25 - Akward KK given pf and villain
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If you ruled out AA KK preflop then i definately like the 15 bet. I think this guy probably has AQ. My last question is why do you think this guy is solid, do you have any numbers on him or is this thru observation. IF so, how long have you been observing him? [/ QUOTE ] I think he might have called the pf re-raise with any LOW-MID pp for set v ans also qq JJ but I think he'd fold aq . so why isn't he folding the flop? I c/f turn and am OK with it but want to see general opp. (read is based on stats + observing him for close to an hour...nor watertight but good enough)...
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