QQ 3-bet pot, bad river

[ilya]

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Is it contradictory to have value shoving KJ and bluff shoving QJ be part of the same game plan?

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Not necessarily; to see why, imagine that your opponent has TT 100% of the time and folds 60% of the time when you make a pot shove on the river. Both bluff shoving QJ and value shoving KJ will now be profitable.

[piriformis]

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i have QJ and he winz.

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Jfish, would you value shove here with KQ/KJ? I assume you would amirite?

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urrite.

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i doubt this very much. seems pretty bad imo

[jfish]

well i think his hand is pretty obvious as a pair under Kx given his flop call and turn check. i might not shove river with KJ/KQ but id certainly bet it.

[ddubois]

If OP didn't bet QQ on the turn, why do you think he'd bet KTs-KQs? And AcXc takes the free card some % of the time surely. Even A7s/A6s are possible.