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Old 11-22-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Razz - really dead 543

Unknown villain, HORSE game...

Should I fold this hand with the dead aces and deuce? I just cannot bring myself to do it. Is the continued calldown bad too?

Razz ($5/$10), Ante $1, Bring-In $1,50 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.70 SB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.85 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (4.85 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

River - (6.85 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (8.85 BB - $88,50)
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

This all looks good to me.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

I play it the same... I like just calling on 3rd because I don't think you want play this for 2 bets with all the dead cards.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

played fine until 5th street imo.....i think i fold when the 7 rolls off for both of us
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

Why?
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

I think it's a fine hand. You got in pretty cheap, made as much as you reasonably could. NH, Sir.
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

WARNING: n00b question

new to Razz.

Why are we not raising "pre"? Is it because there are visibly 3 Aces out of the deck, or is it just not a raising hand in general?
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

I'm 50/50 on 3rd about completing or folding. I hate just calling.

You should raise 4th/5th.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:18 PM
As2s3s4s5s As2s3s4s5s is offline
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

100% properly played *after 3rd* in my book. You shoulda folded on 3rd tho... You have AAA2348 and AAA4 which are critical outs are all dead so your scoop chances are taking it right in the pooper. I normally don't give advice because I want to keep people as retarded possible in this game, but I'm drunk as hell right now.... So F*** it...

On 5th, even if he has AA you are no long a /prohibitive/ favorite. I would actually check raise and see what he does. A lot of idiots will still bet naked AA here because they are total idiots, but I raise because 1.) he might fold 2.) if you two pair, you're most likely ahead 3.) If you low, you gotta lock. You have a 2 way hand, he doesn't. Its key to agress pots when you have two way hands against unidirectional ones. You may be behind at the moment, but you give yourself a chance to take it down and have an A$$tone of outs...
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Razz - really dead 543

We don't raise third because several cards we need are dead. I do think that raising would be OK, though.
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