JJ Q-high 2 tone flop

[neaera]

villain is unknown. my first reaction to his raise was to fold, but that being such a drawy board I thought he could do this with a FD/OESD too, so I pushed. thought I could fold out some lesser queens.
total spew?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $49.75
BTN: $134.80
SB: $62.95
BB: $50
UTG: $55.25
MP: $37.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BTN calls $2.50, SB calls $2.25, BB folds, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($10.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.50</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $21</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">

[greggg230]

Pretty much, considering you're an underdog to almost all of his range (nut flush draw is slightly ahead of you, depending on the kicker)

[vixticator]

I c-bet here close to never. I expect to win the pot on flop very, very, very rarely and it's too thin of value bet. A big draw or Queen is going to c/r and you have to fold. Check and see what button does.

[cashstrapped]

Thats a pretty horrible flop 4 handed so id just check and see what happens.

[hendal]

Check and reevaluate turn.

Often if they check on turn they will fold to a bet.
If they have anything they will raise on turn to build a pot.

[kroeliewoelie]

Please do not bet this flop. You play JJ because it is a hand that is relatively good on all possible flops. But of all these possible flops one of the worst happened in a 4 way pot. You just do not have much folding equity against so many people, because this flop hit a lot of hands. Even if all oppontents fold like 80% of the time to flop bets (which is a very, very optimistic guess), the chance that all of them will fold is only 50%. Which is the break-even percentage needed for making a PSB profitable solely based on fold equity.

[neaera]

wow, really screwed this up!
didn't really take into account that 4 ppl were seeing the flop. concentration thing i guess.
anyway, many thx for the input.