TT in big multiway pot, how do you play it?

[Apanage]

I reraise QQ-AA against an aggressive or real loose line-up.
I transform to an aggressor and CR flop if the flop seems favorable and the betting comes from the right places (read from the later positions)so I can cut down the field.In this case that is harder since UTG raised preflop but sometimes he checks a 4-way flop since he has two players acting behind him.
I have a PFR of 18-19% and I mainly raise for folding equity.And I don´t think that we have enough of that in this hand to raise preflop.
I don´t think our EV for raising is big enough to overcome the problems we face being OOP against this crowd with this type of hand.I think having the initiative magnifies our problems.


I reraise 99+ against a tight or more passive line-up.

[mvoss]

How did you get 7.5-1? I'm getting 21-2=10.5-1. One of us can't count...

[mvoss]

Yeah, I know your reasons for not raising preflop, let's not start up that discussion again. One thing though, you'll be able to make a shutout c/r next to never here since UTG is pretty much never checking the flop. For you to be able to shut people out you need to have the LAG in CO raise UTG's c-bet and have OTB fold and then you can c/3-bet.

[Gurravasa]

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3 or 4 players to the turn, not much of a difference. I would call and try to check raise a non scary turn.

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raise a third ten you mean?

[Guy McSucker]

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How did you get 7.5-1? I'm getting 21-2=10.5-1. One of us can't count...

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Yeah that's what I got and why I thought UTG wouldn't fold anything really.

[ZOMG_RIGGED!]

dont forget the duece

[Apanage]

Maybe so. But then I prefer to CR the field on this flop anyway.Since our equity has skyrocketed and we still get as many bets in as preflop. And we don´t have to check/fold a lot of boards.

[Oink]

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How did you get 7.5-1? I'm getting 21-2=10.5-1. One of us can't count...

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My bad.

I remembered it as 7.5:1 when we discussed it earlier.

10.5:1 is still close enough to expect him to fold IMO. He is not closing the action and he has to hate what he is seeing so far.

[Oink]

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Maybe so. But then I prefer to CR the field on this flop anyway.Since our equity has skyrocketed and we still get as many bets in as preflop. And we don´t have to check/fold a lot of boards.

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This assumes UTG will c-bet any2. How can you expect him to do that in a 4 or 5 way pot?

[mvoss]

Our eq. has skyrocketed on this flop??? I haven't done any stoving but I think this is dead wrong given the ranges I put UTG plus the cold callers on.