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Old 06-17-2007, 12:06 PM
aargh57 aargh57 is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your line

I don't understand why we would call the flop with the intention of folding the turn if villain bets. I know sometimes he may check it through but tha'ts got to be kind of rare on a board like this right? If we call the flop what are we calling the turn with other than our 6's? 4's maybe? I guess with 10 bets in the pot it's worth it but it almost seems like we're just giving him another SB if this is our line as we're only hitting our 6's 1 in 22 times.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:29 PM
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FWIW I think my choice on the flop is between calling and folding the turn and calling down.

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I disagree. Calling flop and c/f turn is silly IMO. He is betting 100% of his range on the turn.

I call down without a read and preflop is standard for me in a 1/2 structure
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:43 PM
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Me don't read sooo gooot...
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:45 PM
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I disagree. Calling flop and c/f turn is silly IMO. He is betting 100% of his range on the turn.

I call down without a read and preflop is standard for me in a 1/2 structure

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Ok, just saying it's silly doesn't cut it... More reasoning please [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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He is betting 100% of his range on the turn.


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Old 06-17-2007, 01:54 PM
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I call this down too. The seems like a board where a lot of people will take a shot at it with A high or air.
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your line

I look at these situations from a table image perspective.

Taking all things into consideration. Well I can't say all, but all I know to come to a decision. That would be our equity compared to the pot, flop texture and villain possibly playing it against us, the fact that the board will most likely get worse than better for us. I would say we are in a neutral to slightly negative EV situation. This would dictate a fold.

However, if I am relatively new to the table or many of the players are whereas I need to establish an image I will call down this hand assuming the board doesn't get worse.

Laying down a hand that showed so much strength preflop to a single raise on that board is like putting a big kick me sign on your back IMO.
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