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Old 05-16-2006, 09:45 PM
lautzutao lautzutao is offline
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Default J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets ??</font>

First poker game I've played in months online. No reads, this is the 3rd orbit I've seen. Nobody's been out of line(Party's gotten pretty rocky [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:03 PM
Hielko Hielko is offline
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

Sometimes i bet this, sometimes i check to look what the action behind me will be. When i bet i would to have a read that how the preflop raiser will play overcards on this flop (always call, always raise, something in between).
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

I'd check and checkraise or fold.

If there are a bunch of players here who want to go multiple bets with strong draws and middle pairs, I tell them by all means, but check/reevaluate gives us the option of bailing in that event.
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:14 PM
The.Accountant The.Accountant is offline
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

I would either bet out or check call. A c/r does nothing to protect our hand with the PF aggressor on our immediate left, so what's the point?
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:16 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

I'd check raise if it turns out to be a value type situation.
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

I'd lead and hope BB raises so our hand is protected.
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:04 PM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

Critikal -

If we take this line, we'd better be sure that he's capable of raising a worse hand.

In otherwords, it's nothing more than aesthetically pleasing if he's only willing to raise hands like AJ and qq in this spot.
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

check and see.
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

Grunch:

BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET BET

and BET

i'm not saying that you should go nuts on this hand, but if you don't bet on this flop then you are playing too scared, i don't know of what, but too scared
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: J6s in SB, lead out on this flop?

ok my previous post was a grunch, would you explain why you would check here? i realize that ther is a lot of players in a ther is the possibility of two pair of jack with better kicker, but why not bet on out the flop??!??!
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