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Old 10-10-2006, 01:48 AM
Ainex Ainex is offline
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If you like Blackjack - try doing a few videopoker bonuses! You'll never complain about the varience in blackjack again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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SO true. My stomach still has a hard time with VP bonuses.
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Old 10-10-2006, 02:24 AM
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If you like Blackjack - try doing a few videopoker bonuses! You'll never complain about the varience in blackjack again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mat

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SO true. My stomach still has a hard time with VP bonuses.

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Yeah but if you do enough of them you are bound to hit a royal and let me tell you hitting a royal while doing a +EV bonus is soooo sweet.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:58 AM
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An update on this. When you said it could get much worse, you weren't kidding....

Have now cleared $2,000 out of $4,000 following the strategy exactly & betting $1 at a time. Am now $130 down.

It's such a joke I've started keeping records of the play. Here's some of the highlights:

Lost 29 hands in a row (are you kidding me?)

Played for 1 hour (I can do approx 250 bets in 1 hour) without getting BJ once. During that time the dealer made BJ 8 times.

Lost 9 times in a row on hands where I'd doubled.


I bow to everyone's superior knowledge here but I'm finding it hard to believe this crap is typical.



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Old 10-10-2006, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: Advice on blackjack variance

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Hi,

I'm in the process of clearing my first ever casino bonus via Blackjack (CON to be exact, using the Crypto strategy from wizardofodds).

I need to wager $4,000. So far I've wagered $350 ($1 at a time) & I'm currently $50 down. That seems ridiculous to me & at that rate I'd lose then entire bonus plus my entire deposit before I even met the WR.

Anyway, here's my question: Is that kind of variance normal for BJ whoring? Never having tried it before I'd like to know if this is typical or unusual. Anecdotal stories welcome.

Thanks
Wado

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Losing 50 betting units over 350 bets is a little more than 2 standard deviations beyond the average return... unlikely, but not impossible. More detailed BJ variance tables are at http://www.beatingbonuses.com/blackjack.htm .

I've played tens of thousands of hands at casino-on-net and done well above the expected return. I found that progessive betting had some utility, but not enough to confirm anything non-random.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Advice on blackjack variance

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An update on this. When you said it could get much worse, you weren't kidding....

Have now cleared $2,000 out of $4,000 following the strategy exactly & betting $1 at a time. Am now $130 down.

It's such a joke I've started keeping records of the play. Here's some of the highlights:

Lost 29 hands in a row (are you kidding me?)

Played for 1 hour (I can do approx 250 bets in 1 hour) without getting BJ once. During that time the dealer made BJ 8 times.

Lost 9 times in a row on hands where I'd doubled.


I bow to everyone's superior knowledge here but I'm finding it hard to believe this crap is typical.



[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Wado

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130 down with 2000 bets is a little over 2 standard deviations again (more than last time). But what is really abnormal is losing 29 times in a row. The odds of this happening randomly are roughly 1 in a billion. I'd recommend saving a screenshot showing the losing sequential hands. Even if support doesn't admit a problem, the screenshot evidence will have repurcussions on gambling forums.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:12 AM
Wadofella Wadofella is offline
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This is total bullsh*t. Now $180 down after $3,000.
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Advice on blackjack variance

FWIW this is now finished. Ended up $160 down after $4,000.

I did try to get the history - when I click on history & select the game I was playing I get "Our records indicate that you do not have a recent History for this game."

Outstanding.


I don't think I'll be trying this again, I lack the temperament or the luck that you need for it.


Thanks for the replies anyway.


Wado
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Advice on blackjack variance

i lost 160 bets over 4000 wr before on playtech bj @ $1/hand. and i certainly lost ~15 hands in a row, not as impressive as yours, but j/m. also on my first bonus ever. it happens, but i certainly have won a lot to go with the big losses. stick to it. i'm on a losing stint, busted all my monthlies so far... had to reload my neteller urk! i sympathise. take'er easy!
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