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Old 09-04-2007, 09:18 AM
effang effang is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 big draw

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soah

do you like a shove or just a normal 3 bet to like 200?

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I'd do like 166 or something

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isn't that a value that induces a call from other big combo draws as well? why isn't 200 a better value for FE,

is it because 166 allows us a stronger shove on a blank turn?

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 big draw

what other big combo draws

and who has them?
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 big draw

keel yoself. that is all.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 big draw

You have a straight flush out, how could you possibly fold? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I would shove and think I have reasonably good fold equity 10-20% which is enough for a nice profit. Plus, this will often get to be HU with a bit of extra money in it from the guy who folded to your shove which ups your pot odds.
The issue is that you might end up against a set and a higher flush draw which can't lay down, but that scenario is rare and you have 4 outs even then for prolly 12% equity even then in a three way pot. Hitting the 5s there is BBV gold.

You do want to try to push out mid flush draws which would call if you call here.

LOL at anyone who says fold here.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:23 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 big draw

1) Could it please be explained to me what pther big combo draws exist? The board is 6s3x2s, Hero has 4s3s. Unless someone has specifically As5s or As4s, there aren't any big combo draws. 7s5s, maybe. Fairly unlikely.

2) By shoving you can get the pot heads up, and push out hands like mid flush draws which have you scurved.

3) Not really much sense in calling a raise preflop with 43s and then folding to action on THIS board, is there?
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:25 PM
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3) Not really much sense in calling a raise preflop with 43s and then folding to action on THIS board, is there?

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Completely agree! That's the flop you're playing that kind of hand for...
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