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Old 09-29-2007, 06:12 AM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default NL50 Mulitway

Villan was new at the table but looked tight.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $29.09
BB: $91.27
UTG: $52.22
Hero (MP): $58.12
CO: $137.12
BTN: $56.01

Preflop: Hero is dealt J A (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $2.50, SB calls $2.25, BB folds, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($10.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50

Turn: ($24.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $14.50</font>, Hero calls $14.50, 2 folds

River: ($53.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero???
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:18 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

shove turn.

as played shove river. he bet the flop, you cant reasonably put him on a flush unless its some A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] kinda hand. a set is possible but i dont see it leading out on such a dry board...
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

Shove river. It's likely he has a weaker jack. Don't worry about flush.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

I am not worried about the flush but the fact that there were 4 players at the turn
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:33 AM
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Is checking behind to weak?

He was like 19 / 16 on 50 hands
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

I think you screw up on every street.

Raise the flop, you dont want a hand like 75 to outdraw you.
Make it 10 on the flop.

As played raise or shove turn, doesnt matter that much.

As played river is an easy shove, he got sth like KJ,QJ,JT.
You cant possibly be afraid of the flush...

Why do you worry about the 4 players on the turn?
You got trips with top kicker.
There is no logical hand, except 44/66, that have you beat.


And yes checking behind is uber weak...
You lose millions of $ if you check behind in those spots.
And preflop stats dont matter, if he plays extremly aggro postflop.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

"There are 3 opponents on the turn, one of them must be slowplaying a boat, so I'd better play my third nuts very carefully"?

Sure you could be behind, but being afraid of never giving action to a hand that beats you is a way to lose _a lot_ of value from hands you beat.

Had you reraised the flop and gotten 3 calls I could see slowing down on the turn, but by playing that passively you lose that option and until you see some aggression (or have reads), why would you think you're not good here?

Anyway, Raise the flop, Bet/Raise the turn all-in or as played push all-in on the river.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: NL50 Mulitway

I've been staring at the HH for 15 mins and still am all over the place on villian's likely holdings...19/16 limping UTG seems strange...at first glance perhaps medium PP or Axs...now J10/J9s really fit here well.... especially villians weak lead on flop reeks of J/crap kicker...turn put FD on board w/ 4 ppl in hand and bets again, seems like he likes his hand but is unsure on where he stands...i RR AI turn, as played def AI river, weaker J is paying you here
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:08 AM
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I shoved and he had 44.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:40 AM
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villian played hand well, i wouldve shoved river too
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