oops

[NinaWilliams]

I almost didnt post this because I dont think i'll run into this spot again. I still think the turn is kind of an interesting spot though.

Villain is a 45/25/1.5 LAG. No notes.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero

[frenchpignouf]

It is the bottom of your range in sb against a lag ?

I call the turn, you can drawing dead but he has often draw. I call most rivers.

[TheHip41]

c/f the turn time.

i hope "oops" is in reference to a misclick [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Heisenb3rg]

This is a spot that depends on two things:

1) his WTSD%
2) his capablility/frequency of turn spewage.

If he spews the turn hard a lot, just call down.
If hes somewhat foldy for a LAG and doesnt turn spew (uncommon), c/r the turn and bet most rivers.

if you dont know his tendencies id just call down, fold if the board straightens.

Id probabily donk a river king/queen...

I dont fold pairs in bloated pots vs LAGs.. and it works pretty well for me.

Oh and fold PF [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[NinaWilliams]

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Oh and fold PF [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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nit

[frenchpignouf]

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Oh and fold PF [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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nit

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I think pf is fine. There is a little RIO with this hand, but there is enough tilt implied odds for the lag on our right to offset that.

[Oink]

Folding the turn should be out of the question against this guy

he has a flush draw or 98 or T8 here often enough for me to call turn and reevaluate. I have 5 outs if behind and the best hand often enough when river is a 2, 3, 4, J, Q, K, A

[Oink]

Dunno how much it helps.

But this is vs any reasonable flush or straight draw and made hand

Board: 4h 6c 7h Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.819% 25.27% 00.55% 2190 48.00 { 4d2s }
Hand 1: 74.181% 73.63% 00.55% 6382 48.00 { TT-22, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, A7s-A4s, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhJh, KhTh, Kh9h, Kh8h, K7s-K4s, Kh3h, Kh2h, QhJh, QhTh, Qh9h, Qh8h, Q7s-Q4s, Qh3h, Qh2h, JhTh, Jh9h, Jh8h, J7s-J4s, Th9h, Th8h, T7s, 96s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A7o-A6o, A4o, K7o-K6o, 98o, 87o }


And a funny example with KQ

Board: 4h 6c 7h Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.819% 25.27% 00.55% 2190 48.00 { 4d2s }
Hand 1: 74.181% 73.63% 00.55% 6382 48.00 { TT-22, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, A7s-A4s, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhJh, KhTh, Kh9h, Kh8h, K7s-K4s, Kh3h, Kh2h, QhJh, QhTh, Qh9h, Qh8h, Q7s-Q4s, Qh3h, Qh2h, JhTh, Jh9h, Jh8h, J7s-J4s, Th9h, Th8h, T7s, 96s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A7o-A6o, A4o, K7o-K6o, 98o, 87o }

[Heisenb3rg]

Oink, im not falling for it :P

If your going to fake a poksterstove calculation at least change the name [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Oink]

huh?

Did I miss something obvious?