Average Speed XVII Game Thread

[DustinG]

Here is the thing w/ LC (besides Chuckles getting killed):

Kbar really was insanely wolfy. I don't post that im not changing if someone claims seer often- I reserve that post for the wolfiest of the wolves. I said it for Neil in ASXIII and I said for Kbar on D1, and I'm pretty sure thats it.

And Nez saw it, and I saw it, and Lastchance....

LC made the post that Kbar was basically the best D1 lynch ever, and I agree. It was like a clinic in how to play jester.

And so LC railed on Kbar, and I made just as many posts saying how much we much we should be lynching Kbar, but the difference between LC and me is that Kbar interacted with LC and me. Had Kbar been interacting with me its likely I would have railing on him similarly.

I think we should wait on Lastchance.

[DustinG]

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Dustin what's your stand on Bravos? You were convinced he was a wolf yesterday.

And you keep saying Supine is a villager, but his GT1T interactions and excuses are awful.

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I've been intentionally not talking about Bravos today until he posts.

I just started reading and im still convinced that Supine was ultra-villagery at the start of D1, but I'll update my stance on him once I finish.

[Nicholasp27]

i think it's VERY likely that one of the people pushing kbar from earlier on in the day is a wolf...village tends to 'clear' people who push for and get a wolf lynched d1

but if a wolf saw it was gonna likely happen anyway and so figured they could clear themselves by pushing kbar

[DustinG]

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Nez, why would you 180 on supine?

Is it wolfy from you?

Also, why do I think you're a wolf despite voting for kbar?

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I love how we've all agreed that Kbar is a wolf, and have moved onto who is throwing him under, Supine's status as a result, etc.

But its pretty much true.

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The top quote is Lastchance, the bottum quote is me. GT1T also talked about this too.

LC posts like he knows Kbar is a wolf.

But the problem is that so do I.

Also, looking at some of the other LC/Kbar interactions, I dont think that LC was as 'over-the-top' as I previously thought.

Also, Shortys early D1 can be interpreted as him knowing Neil peeked Luckay.

[bojtun]

Re-reading Supine he goes 13 posts without saying another player's name. Granted he was caught up in the scintillating debate over whether he should claim villager in his opening post, then he finally gets mad at Scott - which is always a good thing.

Then he says he read everything and has "decided that Fnord is a wolf."

Then Dustin says, no, bad, vote Kbar. Supine switches to Kenny.

He later switches to Luckay - this is the only thing I found villagery about him - of course Luckay was in little danger at the time.

D2 he says GT, reasons coming later. Reasons never come and then this exchange:

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GT: I'm eagerly awaiting Supine's promised analysis.

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Supine: Actually I was merely looking for a reaction. There are some things I think are wolfy in your conversation with shortline day 1. Atm you are not my premier vote.

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1. Supine has hardly been a poke and prod, say things to get reactions out of people kind of guy.
2. Second, wolves love to promise analysis and not deliver.
3. "atm you are not my premiere vote." - the Wolfy Wording Hall of Fame called and said this quote will be inducted immediately.

Supine are you in the UK?

[DustinG]

But also, in that above post from LC I quoted. It would be pretty interesting to accuse Nez of bussing Kbar when its in fact LC who is doing it.

And I give LC some village points for that.

[DustinG]

Boj,

I think the idea that wolves love to promise and not deliver is hugely over-rated. Its probably the exact opposite. And I don't find that language he used wolfy either.

[bojtun]

I don't have time to go through all of Luckay's hilarity from yesterday right now ... but there were a couple of things that were so fake it was obvious.

We pretty much have to ignore a lot of what he said ..because he's Luckay ... but his reactions to a couple of people were just totally bogus.

[bojtun]

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you are so unproductive eskimo
so antivillage

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This was definitely a weird one from Luckay. Seems totally forced, and this was when he pretty much knew it was over.

I just saw a post where he almost clears Supine, so I'll rethink all this.

I'm off to work.

[DustinG]

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Kbar, are you evil?

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no

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also, I see this whole LC/Kbar exchange in a new light today.

Kbar had just made a super-wolfy post where he said that no wolves had posted yet, wolfy not so much for what he said, but for what he didn't say, which was acknowledge the fact that tons of people are voting him already, and I said that Kbar is already metagaming.

Nez responded to me, and then LC a few minutes later asked Kbar if he was wolfy. Not really wolfy in that light.