KTo on the button

bober2 · #1 08-18-2007, 11:35 PM

How should this be bet?

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Hero ($14.55)
SB ($5.65)
BB ($10)
UTG ($12.45)
MP ($5.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $0.4, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.6, SB raises to $5.25, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $4.40

JustARogue · #2 08-18-2007, 11:37 PM

I'm folding to the flop donk. At these stakes there is no reason to contest the pot.

Vince. · #3 08-18-2007, 11:47 PM

I agree that folding to the flop bet is fine

orange · #4 08-18-2007, 11:50 PM

meh...i dont mind your play. those weak donks fold alot when raised.

Antinome · #5 08-19-2007, 02:31 AM

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I'm folding to the flop donk. At these stakes there is no reason to contest the pot.

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The undersized flop bet is often a flush draw pricing itself in. The fact that he tries to price himself in means he understands pot odds, therefore, when we raise to offer him the wrong odds, he folds....

This works so often I see no reason not to try it, even against an unknown.

When it doesn't work, you give up. fine. nh. Keep an eye on him to see what he is doing this with and make a note.

stickdude · #6 08-19-2007, 02:37 AM

Yeah, the flop donk has to be larger to get me to fold there. Calling is silly, so raising is probably the best play. When he re-raises, just fold and move on to the next hand.

Antinome · #7 08-19-2007, 03:02 AM

The interesting question is what to do when you have a marginal hand, like MPBK in the same situation. Turn your hand into a bluff? because if he calls, he's making a somewhat bad call equity wise against TPGK+, but not really a bad call against MPBK (his overs are good).

In that situation, I'm often more inclined to call as a form of pot control, and raise another weak donk on the turn where if he calls with a draw it will definitely be incorrect.

The problem being that this is exploitable, only calling with weak holdings, and raising with air and monsters. Not a huge problem for now, but as our opponents get more sophisticated, something to think about. Probably the problem will disappear along with the weak donkbets. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

AshtrayBroom · #8 08-19-2007, 03:58 AM

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I'm folding to the flop donk. At these stakes there is no reason to contest the pot.

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I agree. If you don't know much about villain at all you're getting a little out of line here. Maybe if you're anchored by a middle pair or something you should make that raise. Nevertheless, you played it fine.