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Old 11-23-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

Villain 35/25/2.5 over 400 hands, 34% WTSD

PokerStars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

I like

KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, QT should all be folding if not now then on any non broadway/8 turn.

With his lowish wtsd (small sample for that stat) its even possible he is folding 22, 33, 44, 55, 66 maybe even 88, TT

EDIT:
His stats are laggish. Are they filtered?

Just wanna add that this is only a play I would choose if I knew QJ, QT, KT was in his range. Against a TAG or a more regular 28/20 LAGTAG I am just c/c'ing.

1 more edit: If villain is prone to check pp's and Kx on the turn given your flop peel here c/c becomes a helluva lot better as well.

Also note that if your image is crappy this might not be +EV. Even against this guy. Against a player that seems in a spewish mode or if I know he will play WA/WB with Ax I am calling down bricks with KQ, KJ, KT on that board.


And just to make a preemptive strike against all the folders on this forum. If you ever c/f this flop you suck [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

an easier way is to cap preflop.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

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an easier way is to cap preflop.

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i've started capping with hands like this too.

Then I bet the flop and get raised 100% of the time.

Also, while this play looks nice on paper, my opponents have AK everytime I do it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

Although I don't do it frequently, I really like the idea of capping this pre-flop vs the right kind of opponent. It really increases your fold equity vs mid-low PP's and your equity isn't that bad against most of his range (I think).

Gonna start experimenting with this.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:28 PM
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I hate capping PF against a LAGTAG or LAG who is SD bound

You have no eq edge of the money going in - on the contrary - and your implied FE isnt gonna improve a lot
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

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And just to make a preemptive strike against all the folders on this forum. If you ever c/f this flop you suck [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I find it a little bit easier to continue when I have 4 outs to the nuts than I have calling with 1 over to the board and a backdoor gsdraw. So I could peel this kind of flop.Doesn´t always do though.
I guess I suck at poker.

I think OP:s play is alright for reasons OINK stated. But still like to point out that a player poulation that has 34% WSD is not homogeneous. I have great respect for the 34%:s that have those stats because they´re constantly folding out others with hyperaggressive play.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:57 PM
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no one has ever check folded this flop in his LIFE.

remember that one thread oink made where everyone was like

"wow wtf are you doing calling that flop?"

that is how i feel about him thinking anyone ever check folds this flop.



OINK YOU ARE SUCH A RANDOM GUY SOMETIMES (xoxo)
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

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no one has ever check folded this flop in his LIFE.

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Sorry to say Miles.I do fold this flop when I have my major downswings.I´ll admit it is probably real bad poker.
But in the bottom of the abyss It feels that if I hit a pair on turn he is never going to have anything else than
an ace in his hand.Those times he hasn´t then he hits is K when he takes a freecard.
And when I hit my straight he never has an ace.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: JTs - Playing back at LAGTAG

I thought the point of being a LAG was that you don't fold; you raise. This is going to be a resteal much of the time vs a LAG who 3 bets and flops an ace in those cases where he's missed.
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