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Old 11-13-2007, 11:59 AM
Nairb Nairb is offline
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Default PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

I feel like I may have butchered this hand. Villian is 58/25 over a very small sample of 30 or so hands so when I hit the set I knew he would bet but that he also could have played any two sooted cards as he appeared to be chasing flushes regularely. I decided to slow play, probably a mistake. How bad is this hand and how would you have played it. Is slowplaying a set here terrible? I have been on a run of my big hands not getting paid off so I was trying to build a decent sized pot and not run him out. Seems like when I bet out lately with a big hand I am getting no value but when I slowplay I am getting drawn out on. It is a double edge sword huh. On the turn is that small a c/r bad, i thought after I did it I thought it was bad and I should have pushed.


Poker Stars, $11 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 7 Players
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MP: 1,880
CO: 1,215
BTN: 1,635
Hero (SB): 1,475
BB: 2,080
UTG: 765
UTG+1: 1,925

Pre-Flop: (75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">BB raises to 100</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 100, 3 folds, Hero calls 75, Observer folds

Flop: (350) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets 150</font>, UTG+1 calls 150, Hero calls 150

Turn: (800) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets 200</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 500</font>, BB calls 300

River: (1,800) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets 725 and is All-In</font>, BB calls 725

Results: 3,250 Pot (3,250 Rake)
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

First of all, your converter messed up the pre-flop action... BB minraises first to act... and observer folds?!?

In general, I'm much more likely to slow-play a set on a two-suited flop when I'm up against only one opponent. One opponent is very unlikely to have the flush draw there and I'd rather concern myself with extracting chips than worrying about the draw. Vs the villain you described, I'd probably check and let him take a stab at the pot if we were HU.

Once there are two or more others in the pot, the chance of someone being on a flush draw is much higher and I'll almost never slow-play.

In your hand, I'd bet out on the flop. As played, raise more on the turn.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

Lead flop, lead turn, shove river.

As sap said: there are multiple villians in this hand you have to bet it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

There is something about the preferred seat option at PS that messes up my HH when I try to convert them. It is all messed up. First off UTG was the original min-raiser and it ended up being Me, the SB vs villian the BB. Observer. wtf?
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

I use the preferred seat option also and never have this problem. I use the Flop, Turn, River hand converter.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

That came out better. Thanks for the FTR link, I was not using that one.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1880)
CO (t1215)
Button (t1635)
Hero (t1475)
BB (t2525)
UTG (t2080)
UTG+1 (t765)
MP1 (t1925)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t350) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t150</font>, MP1 calls t150, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t800) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t200</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, UTG calls t300.

River: (t1800) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t725 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls t725.

Final Pot: t3250
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:37 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

I don't see anything wrong with this hand except for your raise size on turn... I'd just shove.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

[ QUOTE ]
I don't see anything wrong with this hand except for your raise size on turn... I'd just shove.

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought the same thing and that bet broke me as he was playing Q J s and made the nuts on the river. Had I pushed the turn he may have folded but with his stats I doubt it. He had chased in all 3 tourneys I have stats on him on. Oh well, on to the next. Thanks for the input.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

he's never folding a flush draw here so you may as well get it all in while ahead...if he misses his river you lose $$$$$$$$
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: PS $12 180 Flopped set vs Hyper Agressive

raise flop
raise turn more

[x] lol slowplay got owned

=edit you say hes hyperaggressive and also say that he chases a lot

so why not charge him? youre way ahead get it in
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