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#23
10-02-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: 200NL- KK against monster fish, play along with me
I really don't think we have to worry about hands that beat us as the only ones that would call a shove. He'll convince himself that like 89 is good or something. I shove.
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#25
10-02-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: 200NL- KK against monster fish, play along with me
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[ QUOTE ] call, call river bet if he checks river, shove [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] The pot is 1.1 buyins. Name ONE hand that isn't complete air that the fish folds if we shove. Just ONE. Calling here is silly. What if he c/folds his 79 on a blank river?
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#26
10-02-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: 200NL- KK against monster fish, play along with me
am i wrong to think fishdonk has a six here more than anything else? im mean the ratio of possible 6s to straight draws must be like 3-1 at least. take in a nine we may have a 3-1-5 ratio. the question is, how does his play change those relations, i cant believe he has a nine here often. straight draws are possible but i think unlikely to play like this. there is a slight chance for a slowplayed overpair though. i think you are behind here. he seems to be using the strategy i had at play money: make sure you get a small part of your money in on every street and dont raise with the good hands.
fold is probably best, but in reality i d probably just shove over. calling is bad i think if we plan to call a river bet anyway.
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#27
10-02-2007, 08:07 PM
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Re: 200NL- KK against monster fish, play along with me
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am i wrong to think fishdonk has a six here more than anything else? im mean the ratio of possible 6s to straight draws must be like 3-1 at least. take in a nine we may have a 3-1-5 ratio. the question is, how does his play change those relations, i cant believe he has a nine here often. straight draws are possible but i think unlikely to play like this. there is a slight chance for a slowplayed overpair though. i think you are behind here. he seems to be using the strategy i had at play money: make sure you get a small part of your money in on every street and dont raise with the good hands. fold is probably best, but in reality i d probably just shove over. calling is bad i think if we plan to call a river bet anyway. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, you only have to win 1 out of 3 times here. He's too much of a LAGtard to let this go.
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#28
10-03-2007, 09:23 AM
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Re: 200NL- KK against monster fish, play along with me
Well I had an Fgators like 6th sense about this hand and I've been running terrible the last 30+ days so I expected him to have an A or a 6 everytime here. I would have shoved the turn if any card other than an A showed up. But I agree a shove is probably best on the turn even w/ the A coming up.
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $207.25 BB: $305.45 <u>UTG: $233.00</u> CO: $200.00 <u>Hero (BTN): $197.00</u> Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG calls $2.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, SB calls $11.00, BB calls $10.00, UTG calls $10.00 Flop: ($48) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $12.00</font>, UTG calls $12.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $38.00 Turn: ($160) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $52.00</font>, Hero calls $52.00 River: ($264) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $119.00</font>, Hero???? LOL jk Hero calls all-in for $83.00 Uncalled bet of $36.00 returned to UTG Pot Size: $430.00 ($2 Rake) UTG had 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sixes) and LOST (-$197.00) Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Kings full of Sixes) and WON (+$231.00)
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