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Old 02-25-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

Full Tilt Poker
$/$ No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
9 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $246.40 in chips
BB: $218.65 in chips
UTG: $247.40 in chips
UTG+1: $395 in chips
Hero (MP1): $388 in chips
MP2: $477.90 in chips
MP3: $68 in chips
CO: $536.45 in chips
BTN: $469.90 in chips

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0, 9 players)
UTG: folds, UTG+1: folds, Hero raises to 12, MP2: folds, MP3: folds, CO: folds, BTN: folds, SB: calls $10, BB: folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10, 9 players)
SB: checks, <font color="red">Hero: bets $20</font>, SB: calls $20

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($50, 9 players)
SB: checks, <font color="red">Hero: bets $50</font>, SB: calls $50

<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($150, 9 players)
SB: checks


The guy was 45 9 and checked the river pretty quickly. Problem is that it's hard to come up with weaker hands that call me here. I have all the tens, so unless the guy somehow has a jack or king, it's very hard to expect a call, and of course even if he has a ten he's not super likely to call. Meanwhile I feel like people don't checkraise the river so much when the pot is this big compared to the stack sizes, but perhaps it's hard to say this about someone who is 45 9.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

I bet this here all day. I wouldn't make a huge bet, but whatever you think he'll call with a marginal hand. Like 1/2 pot. I also have found out if they're a station preflop, they tend to be a station postflop.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

I really think that the guy having an agression of 9 is going for a check-raise here on the river, especially with the quick check. I also dont see any real hands that will call your river bet, JT, KT, 66, 44 would call but I think his range on hands that might have you beat or that will not call the river bet are a lot more then the hands that will call you bet. So I would just check it.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

Sorry I meant 45 9 as in 45 VPIP and 9 PFR. His aggression is like 2. Meant to post that, my fault.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

Oh ok... I would still check the river since I really dont see anything worse calling you in this situation.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?


Let's say you think for a while, decide that if he check raises hes almost definitely not bluffing you, and eventually decide to bet 50, hoping for a call from some random weak hand. Then let's say he min check raises you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

well I would say your almost forced to call since you are only calling $50 to win $250. Even though you are msot likely beat.

Learn to check the river in scary situation like this one, going to save you a lot of money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

I love when my advice is always wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I think you have to call river, and pray he turns over a lower set.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

I called he had JJJ, guess he saved me some money with his slowplaying [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: $400 Do you bet this river against 45 9 player?

You checked behind, you mean?
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