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Old 07-19-2007, 03:24 PM
TimTimSalabim TimTimSalabim is offline
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

Yang asked for God's help, so He sent Jesus down to advise him on tipping. Maybe this prayer stuff works after all.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

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Good. Dealers who think they should be wealthy are idiots. Try going to college and getting a real job. You shouldnt be making $50/hour dealing poker.

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Why shouldn't I? I may not be the best dealer out there but I have a kick ass job that i love and why shouldn't i get paid well for a job that takes alot of skill and knowledge to be done right? Hell just having to put up with players with piss poor attitudes that blame their crappy play or poor luck on me and the cards i deal.....i should make alot more

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takes a lot of skill?? a monkey could learn how to deal poker. again, i used to be a poker dealer, and a good one, so i know.
you say that you have a job you love, then you say you should get paid more.. makes sense.
a lot(not all) of poker dealers are overpaid whiners who think they deserve more.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

I'm actually pretty sure that given enough time, you really could teach a chimp to deal cards.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:58 PM
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I'm actually pretty sure that given enough time, you really could teach a chimp to deal cards.

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Yeah, but how are you going to teach it that a flush beats a straight?
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:59 PM
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I'm actually pretty sure that given enough time, you really could teach a chimp to play PLO8.

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:00 PM
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Yeah, but how are you going to teach it that a flush beats a straight?

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We pay another guy 10$ an hour for that part ? Seems fair.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:05 PM
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I got my tip, a wonderful heartfelt hug from a good guy and it was priceless, plus my share of the $743,866.00 tip given to us dealers by you players as well as my regular salary and would still be very pleased with having a voice on the players advisory board so changes can be made so we can get extra tips assured for next year.

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Next time take it up with your employer, not your employers <font color="green"> customers! </font>
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:16 PM
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I got my tip, a wonderful heartfelt hug from a good guy and it was priceless, plus my share of the $743,866.00 tip given to us dealers by you players as well as my regular salary and would still be very pleased with having a voice on the players advisory board so changes can be made so we can get extra tips assured for next year.

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fyp
Next time take it up with your employer, not your employers <font color="green"> customers! </font>

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Sounds like that's exactly what she plans on doing.

You guys are so accustomed to seeing dealers come here and whine about their tips after every WSOP that you're incapable of actually reading any of their posts.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:26 PM
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I got my tip, a wonderful heartfelt hug from a good guy and it was priceless, plus my share of the $743,866.00 tip given to us dealers by you players as well as my regular salary and would still be very pleased with having a voice on the players advisory board so changes can be made so we can get extra tips assured for next year.

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fyp
Next time take it up with your employer, not your employers <font color="green"> customers! </font>

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Sounds like that's exactly what she plans on doing.

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"...They formed the WSOP Player Advisory Board ...to help make decisions that made sense for the players..." And just how is her asking to be on the PAB "exactly" like taking it up with her employer?
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: \"Jesus\" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

I want to hear some real, factual numbers about how much money dealers are making.

Firstly, I know for a fact that all people that receive their primary income from tips (dealers, cocktail waitresses, strippers) grossly misrepresent their income all the time. Strippers making $1000/hr in the VIP that think they are "worth" that amount for their "conversation and good looks", even when they full well know their job is just to lead clueless guys into paying constantly and never getting. Cocktail waitresses that speak up every time you don't tip, as if passing you a drink is worth ATLEAST $1, "but really you should tip more." Girls getting red chips to pass drinks, getting flags a week to grind dick, that near any girl can do. The median hourly wage in America is less than $20/hr. Its sickening that those sorts of people are bitching, in the same way that all of the above in general are bitching and misrepresenting their income to get more tips.

If you look at the post, the dealer says they get a ~$7 hourly, + bonus money. The bonus money works out to ~$200, yet you rely on WSOP for 2/3 of your yearly income? Yeah right. Face the facts, dealers are making enough money as it is. And yes I agree casinos need to be the primary person that pay dealers in tournaments.

In general, most-anyone that makes a living from tips has it good (unless their tip-outs cost too much.) The reason is: when people spend money on entertainment (including tips), they don't see a few dollars as a big deal. But it is a big deal, and a vast majority of people are working for &lt; $20/hr. It adds up quickly, the same way that alot of high stakes pros "only" make $1 or $2 a hand.

And finally about the Ferguson issue, Jerry Wang asked CF for his opinion, and CF gave it. There is no issue here. And no I do not believe the dealer "deserves" any extra windfall. Maybe the dealer is unlucky that a fish who would tip $100k didn't win. Too bad. That's why they are fish.
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