Future Baseball Legends

[lippy]

How does the author not mention Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson and/or Roger Clemens? Johan Santana?

[tolbiny]

Andy,

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I'm a nostalgic guy as I near my golden years, but can't say I liked the article. Joe DiMaggio and Bob Gibson are legends not because of the haze of nostalgia, but because they were great players. In fact, DiMaggio's reputation has declined in recent years. Nobody would have ranked Mickey Mantle above DiMaggio when Mantle retired in 1968; now everybody does. Catfish Hunter won twenty games five years running and performed well in the World Series.

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I think the author got one thing right, that is greatness and legends have something else about them. Who is going to remember Eddie Murry in 20 years? He was a once in a generation player, but for whatever reasons his personality, style or just where his talent lay will stop him from being in the same class as players who weren't as good but had a better story line. Someone like Kirk Gibson who had a moment to define his legacy, or closer who has the spotlight on him whenever he performs so his efforts appear magnified.
This article, as a whole, is piss poor though. Rivera? He's already a legend, in the making just doesn't apply. Leaving off a guy like Johan? If he ends up winning a WS ring or more with a team like the Dodgers he could easily vault from best pitcher in the league to a guy your kids remember your stories about.

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so don't be afraid to walk because it's just as good as a single

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It's not, but I completely understand your point.

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Sometimes a walk is better than a single.

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like when?

[tolbiny]

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so don't be afraid to walk because it's just as good as a single

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It's not, but I completely understand your point.

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Sometimes a walk is better than a single.

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like when?

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When it takes more pitches.

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so don't be afraid to walk because it's just as good as a single

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It's not, but I completely understand your point.

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Sometimes a walk is better than a single.

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like when?

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When it takes more pitches.

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thats the process, not the result. a 4 pitch walk is never better than a 4 pitch single

[Benholio]

Sometimes it is better to take less pitches than more pitches.

[Shadowrun]

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Sometimes it is better to take less pitches than more pitches.

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when is this ever true? and dont say something like a starter is 95 pitches into a game and someone takes a 6 pitch walk so they take him out vs. a 1 pitch single, and they keep him in the game and the next batter hits a hr.

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Sometimes it is better to take less pitches than more pitches.

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when is this ever true? and dont say something like a starter is 95 pitches into a game and someone takes a 6 pitch walk so they take him out vs. a 1 pitch single, and they keep him in the game and the next batter hits a hr.

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How about when the starter is a worse pitcher than most of the relievers that would replace him?

[mo42nyy]

with noone on base id much prefer to give up a single than a walk
atleast with the single there was a decent chance the ball was going to be an out

[Benholio]

I agree. When I am sweating my fantasy pitchers, I'd much rather see singles than walks. Heck, many times I'd rather see a double than a walk. Throw some strikes damnit!