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Old 11-29-2006, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Yankees win bid on Igawa, 25 Mil

Is he better than Pavano, Proctor, Karstens, Rasner, Meche, Lilly, etc?
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Yankees win bid on Igawa, 25 Mil

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I don't understand, why is this allowed to go on? Why don't these players have to enter the draft like everyone else?

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2 reasons.

1.) The MLB draft is an amateur draft. These Japanese pitchers are professionals and do not qualify.

2.) They are still under contract with their Japanese league teams and therefore would not be allowed to become major leaguers by their teams unless the team is compensated in some way and the bidding system allows them to get the greatest compensation.

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Adding on. The system was devisesd jointly by MLB and NPB so that NPB teams could avoid losing players to the MLB teams without compensation. It was a reaction to Hideo Nomo 'retiring' to get out of the contract he had in Japan and then signing with the Dodgers.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Yankees win bid on Igawa, 25 Mil

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Is he better than Pavano, Proctor, Karstens, Rasner, Meche, Lilly, etc?

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Pavano has not pitched in what.... By the time the season starts 550+ days? Assuming he's ready to go? I wouldn't count of him to ever pitch in pinstripes again. I'd rather the Yanks mail him his check and tell him to just not even bother.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Yankees win bid on Igawa, 25 Mil

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Bobby Valentine says he's good, but not great, that he was better 3-4 years ago. He's now 27 I believe. Throws about 90 and has a good curve.

Doesn't appear he'd be a star at the MLB level.

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instead of relaying on what bobby V says, we could just compare his stats the last 3 years to what matsuzuka did and weight them accordingly(3/2/1). i will do it later [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Yankees win bid on Igawa, 25 Mil

supposedly he will get something like a 4 or 5 year deal worth 4-5 million per. the 25mil posting fee doesn't count against the luxury tax so its the same type of money they woulda paid Lilly cept the 25 million is treated differently..plus i think Lilly is older
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:06 PM
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supposedly he will get something like a 4 or 5 year deal worth 4-5 million per. the 25mil posting fee doesn't count against the luxury tax so its the same type of money they woulda paid Lilly cept the 25 million is treated differently..plus i think Lilly is older


[/ QUOTE ] Depending on how much they pay Igawa, this shows why this is a wise move for the Yankees but not for anybody else.
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