Zigmund spewing off chips to Benyamine

luckyjimm · #1 07-18-2007, 02:33 PM

Was that turn bet really necessary?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2984815840: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:31:27 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($6,492.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($47,592)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe ($81,684)
Seat 4: qwert987 ($44,980)
Seat 5: Jigga100 ($12,174), is sitting out
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($153,384)
MangoJuice posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
KaiBuxxe raises to $1,400
qwert987 folds
David Benyamine calls $1,400
MangoJuice folds
KaiBuxxe is feeling happy
Ziigmund raises to $5,800
KaiBuxxe is feeling angry
KaiBuxxe is feeling confused
KaiBuxxe calls $4,400
KaiBuxxe is feeling normal
David Benyamine calls $4,400
*** FLOP *** [9d 2h 2s]
Ziigmund bets $17,600
KaiBuxxe folds
David Benyamine calls $17,600
*** TURN *** [9d 2h 2s] [7h]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund bets $24,192, and is all in
David Benyamine calls $24,192
Ziigmund shows [6c Ac Kh 8s]
David Benyamine shows [Qh 6d 9h 9c]
*** RIVER *** [9d 2h 2s 7h] [Ts]
Ziigmund shows a straight, Ten high
David Benyamine shows a full house, Nines full of Twos
David Benyamine wins the pot ($101,182) with a full house, Nines full of Twos
Ziigmund adds $40,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $101,184 | Rake $2
Board: [9d 2h 2s 7h Ts]
Seat 1: MangoJuice (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [6c Ac Kh 8s] and lost with a straight, Ten high
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe folded on the Flop
Seat 4: qwert987 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Jigga100 is sitting out
Seat 6: David Benyamine (button) showed [Qh 6d 9h 9c] and won ($101,182) with a full house, Nines full of Twos

luckyjimm · #2 07-18-2007, 02:36 PM

Pretty sick river call here too:

Full Tilt Poker Game #2984835542: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:34:12 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($5,892.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($48,396)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe ($75,884)
Seat 4: qwert987 ($41,798)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($202,174)
MangoJuice posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
KaiBuxxe raises to $800
qwert987 folds
David Benyamine calls $800
MangoJuice folds
Ziigmund raises to $3,400
KaiBuxxe calls $2,600
David Benyamine calls $2,600
*** FLOP *** [7d Qh Kc]
Ziigmund checks
KaiBuxxe checks
David Benyamine checks
*** TURN *** [7d Qh Kc] [5c]
Ziigmund bets $10,400
KaiBuxxe calls $10,400
David Benyamine folds
*** RIVER *** [7d Qh Kc 5c] [9s]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund checks
KaiBuxxe bets $21,600
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund has requested TIME
Ziigmund calls $21,600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KaiBuxxe shows [6h 5d 5h 8c] a straight, Nine high
Ziigmund mucks
KaiBuxxe wins the pot ($74,398) with a straight, Nine high
Ziigmund adds $27,004
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $74,400 | Rake $2
Board: [7d Qh Kc 5c 9s]
Seat 1: MangoJuice (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) mucked
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe collected ($74,398)
Seat 4: qwert987 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: David Benyamine (button) folded on the Turn

grando · #3 07-18-2007, 02:37 PM

"if you're gonna call a shove you may as well shove yourself"

- some guy

and this hand is pretty standard stuff...

gogandmagaog · #4 07-18-2007, 02:40 PM

Zigmund play 5x more psychotic than anyone else, except maybe rugby but he is virtually impossible to put on a hand and it seems like his style is the same as sammy's seems to be and that style in omaha gets all the money in the end

luckyjimm · #5 07-18-2007, 02:41 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #2984847668: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:35:54 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($5,692.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($40,000)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe ($114,882)
Seat 4: qwert987 ($41,798)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($198,774)
Ziigmund posts the small blind of $200
KaiBuxxe posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
qwert987 calls $400
David Benyamine folds
MangoJuice folds
Ziigmund raises to $1,600
KaiBuxxe folds
qwert987 calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [5s 3d 7s]
Ziigmund bets $3,600
qwert987 calls $3,600
*** TURN *** [5s 3d 7s] [Ad]
Ziigmund bets $10,800
qwert987 calls $10,800
*** RIVER *** [5s 3d 7s Ad] [Kh]
Ziigmund checks
qwert987 bets $17,600
Ziigmund calls $17,600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
qwert987 shows [8c Ks Kd 2d] three of a kind, Kings
Ziigmund mucks
qwert987 wins the pot ($67,598) with three of a kind, Kings
qwert987 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $67,600 | Rake $2
Board: [5s 3d 7s Ad Kh]
Seat 1: MangoJuice (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Ziigmund (small blind) mucked
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: qwert987 collected ($67,598)
Seat 6: David Benyamine didn't bet (folded)

luckyjimm · #6 07-18-2007, 02:42 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #2984880779: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:40:30 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($4,692.50)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($40,000)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe ($114,282)
Seat 4: qwert987 ($75,796)
Seat 5: Luigi66369 ($45,796)
Seat 6: David Benyamine ($195,974)
MangoJuice posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
5 seconds left to act
David Benyamine: coming
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
KaiBuxxe folds
Luigi66369 raises to $1,400
David Benyamine folds
David Benyamine: 1m
MangoJuice folds
Ziigmund: 40K?
Ziigmund raises to $4,400
Luigi66369 calls $3,000
*** FLOP *** [3c 6h Kc]
Ziigmund checks
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 checks
*** TURN *** [3c 6h Kc] [2h]
Ziigmund bets $9,000
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 raises to $36,000
Ziigmund calls $26,600, and is all in
Luigi66369 shows [8c 7c Jh 4h]
Ziigmund shows [9c 3h 5h Tc]
Uncalled bet of $400 returned to Luigi66369
*** RIVER *** [3c 6h Kc 2h] [Qc]
Luigi66369 shows a flush, King high
Ziigmund shows a flush, King high
Ziigmund wins the pot ($80,198) with a flush, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $80,200 | Rake $2
Board: [3c 6h Kc 2h Qc]
Seat 1: MangoJuice (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [9c 3h 5h Tc] and won ($80,198) with a flush, King high
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: qwert987 is sitting out
Seat 5: Luigi66369 showed [8c 7c Jh 4h] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 6: David Benyamine (button) didn't bet (folded)

luckyjimm · #7 07-18-2007, 02:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
"if you're gonna call a shove you may as well shove yourself"

- some guy

and this hand is pretty standard stuff...

[/ QUOTE ]

No, that hand is pure spew. Stupid to bet pot with air out of position there - a check-raise would be better, if you're wanting to get all your chips in on a bluff. And his draw on the turn isn't strong enough to get it in.

gogandmagaog · #8 07-18-2007, 02:45 PM

Jim i don't have the HH but earlier he called 27k pre with j972 unsooted and cracked aces and kings. Is he just gambling or does he play good?

Orlando Salazar · #9 07-18-2007, 02:48 PM

Aba said in his blog that Ziigmund is a really good PLO player.

luckyjimm · #10 07-18-2007, 02:58 PM

In a multiway pot it's often worth calling huge raises with low/middling cards in PLO, because if your opponents all have AATQ, KKTJ, 9TQA etc hands your cards are very live and you can actually be favourite - you'll often just need to make two-pair to win, while your opponents have no chance of making a set and are unlikely to make a straight ince all their cards are in other player's hands. There's a famous hand in which Brad Booth puts in $60k preflop four-way with something like 3345 and takes down a $250k pot for exactly this reason. I think J972 is a junk hand since you're really hoping for a very particular flop, e.g. 8T. But, well, Zigmund likes to gamble.