3 hands vs the same opponent. w/ a lot of history/reads 1000 NL

jj12 · #1 10-26-2007, 08:05 AM

Villain is 27/17/4. He is v loose and v aggressive. Earlier he floated me out of position with 86o on like J35 board. I stacked him for 100bb by reraising with AQ oop beting Q72 and crai on Q729 he had TT. He three bets a lot. We've played about 200 hands together. In a previous session he b3b after cold calling oop vs my overpair with TPMK.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Button: $1527.25
SB: $315.75
Hero: $1000

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button raises to $30, SB folds, Hero raises to $120, Button calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($245, 2 players)
Hero bets $170, Button calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($585, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $200, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($985, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $540. Hero folds

River seems close. I could certainly see him spewing with pp <TT or A high. Do you call here?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Button: $228.25
SB: $1854.48
Hero: $1056

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Button folds, SB raises to $25, Hero raises to $120, SB raises to $320, Hero raises to $1036.

Here he hadn't four bet me before. I've three bet him a bunch of times and he has been calling mostly. I just felt like AQ is too big of a hand vs overagro oppo in BvB, but it could be spew because I am putting a lot of money on the line vs a guy who hasn't 4-bet before.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $176.25
CO: $147.4
Button: $137.5
SB: $1666.48
Hero: $1474

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $30, SB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($60, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $50, SB raises to $120, Hero raises to $250.

He keeps c/r flops vs me. He c/r me on the last 2 hands on JT2 hh flop and KQ5dd flop. It is hard to see him having a strong hand on this flop. Maybe a bigger raise is better?

JackAll · #2 10-26-2007, 08:28 AM

H1: With your read, I feel feel that calling turn should commit you to calling river. I know most of the time only monkeys say that, but this looks a lot like a time when it is actually accurate.

H2: I would fold. The lower part of your range here would be QQ/AK. A 4-bet is very different from a 3-bet - even for a 27/17.

H3: Yea, I dunno. I would probably just fold here. You don't have to battle for every pot against a LAG. I think this is one where we can just let it go. If you do think he is full of crap *that* often, just call. Raise is ok with total air or a draw, but with 77 it seems like a waste.

jj12 · #3 10-26-2007, 11:17 AM

RE H3: he c/r me of the last 4 hands. I mean he should be missing this flop a lot after limp calling.

RE H2: QQ/AK ???? are you kidding me I am three betting any suited connecter+ ip vs this guy he steals with like 40% of his range.

linuxrocks · #4 10-26-2007, 12:42 PM

Hand 1: A double barell would have been better. As played, folding and calling seems right.
Hand 2: AQ sucks seriously for his 4-betting range. You might as well do it with 86s, which plays better when you know you are going to get called a higher percentage of the time.
Hand 3: I wouldn't push thin edges against these lagtards though in vacuum your re-re-raise looks fine.

I don't play at 5/10 that often, but general question: why not check the flop with hands that have show down value (like 77, TPMK etc.) if he is check/raising all the time?

Jamougha · #5 10-26-2007, 12:53 PM

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Hand 2: AQ sucks seriously for his 4-betting range. You might as well do it with 86s, which plays better when you know you are going to get called a higher percentage of the time.

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This is really really wrong. Spend some time with pokerstove and a calculator.

First two look good to me though the river may be a call in hand one, tough to say without knowing the guy. Check the flop in hand 3.

linuxrocks · #6 10-26-2007, 12:57 PM

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Hand 2: AQ sucks seriously for his 4-betting range. You might as well do it with 86s, which plays better when you know you are going to get called a higher percentage of the time.

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This is really really wrong. Spend some time with pokerstove and a calculator.

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Really?


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.151% 27.02% 01.14% 166534536 6998250.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 71.849% 70.71% 01.14% 435898404 6998250.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.418% 28.22% 00.20% 77315492 540882.00 { 86s }
Hand 1: 71.582% 71.38% 00.20% 195571384 540882.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

Of course, if you add one more pair (TT), AQ is certainly better.

Jamougha · #7 10-26-2007, 12:59 PM

Card removal dude.

linuxrocks · #8 10-26-2007, 01:00 PM

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Card removal dude.

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What?

Jamougha · #9 10-26-2007, 01:01 PM

he's less likely to have AA/QQ/AK because we have an A and Q. Which makes it more likely that he's fos.

linuxrocks · #10 10-26-2007, 01:03 PM

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he's less likely to have AA/QQ/AK because we have an A and Q. Which makes it more likely that he's fos.

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Isn't that taken care of in the enumeration by PokerStove?