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Old 11-07-2007, 12:19 PM
RUFFNECK RUFFNECK is offline
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3) Marco Rubio (the speaker of the Florida House) has said the compact will never pass the House.


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Rubio is so full of it though, he makes these statements regularly then rolls over in session. He was a big opposer of PIP renewal, he talked all this BS the put in a few clauses that don't mean a whole hellva alot to PIP reform.


At the end of the day the Seminoles are going to get something in expanded gaming, its their right to get it, and everyone involved knows it. Its just how much can the squeeze out of this go around. All the need is ok'ed vegas slots and a injunction to run them during any type of tie up and they will have a endless supply of legal defense money.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:23 PM
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I don't think there's any question they'll get the Class III slots since the Broward parimutuels have them. But any other casino games (blackjack, etc.) is doubtful, and high-stakes poker isn't even part of the discussion.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:29 PM
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The compact was just finaled. Here's the poke language:

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L. The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each
of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that
limit wagers and pot sizes. However, the Tribe may hold up to six (6) celebrity/charity
poker tournaments per year in each of its Facilities that are not subject to the
limitations/restrictions imposed by Florida law, provided that a minimum of seventy
percent (70%) of the Net Poker Income from each poker tournament is donated to a
charitable organization organized pursuant to Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue
Code. The maximum number of days a celebrity/charity tournament will be played is
eight (8) calendar days during the month a tournament is hosted. Any payments made to
charitable organizations pursuant to this part shall not be calculated as Net Win for
purpose of payments to the State under Part XI.

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Old 11-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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Old 11-14-2007, 07:35 PM
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Anyone have a link to the final draft.
If its anything like the earlier drafts we are F'ed
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:57 PM
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Compact in PDF
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:48 PM
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So if I am reading this correctly, the buy in limits have not increased. It is still $100. True???
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:40 AM
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The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that limit wagers and pot sizes.

What I understand is they will have to abide by the state laws regarding poker. I’m assuming, and two of the floorguys agreed with me, is that they will have to close for 12 hours a day. I think any new gambling is good for the game because it builds tolerance from the general public. The Class III slots came and the world didn’t come to an end. I would only hope that this asinine 100 buyin crap will come to an end. Its really driving me crazy.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:25 AM
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The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that limit wagers and pot sizes.

What I understand is they will have to abide by the state laws regarding poker. I’m assuming, and two of the floorguys agreed with me, is that they will have to close for 12 hours a day. I think any new gambling is good for the game because it builds tolerance from the general public. The Class III slots came and the world didn’t come to an end. I would only hope that this asinine 100 buyin crap will come to an end. Its really driving me crazy.

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I actually interpret this to allow 24 hour poker. An earlier draft of the compact specified that the Seminoles had to abide by provisions related to hours. This was removed in the final compact. The way I read this is that they currently conduct poker in a way that abides by Florida law as it relates to wager sizes and pot sizes but not to hours and they will continue to do so.

It's amazing to me that there are no limits to how much one can wager in slot machines, lottery tickets or pari mutuel wagering but there are limits to poker wagering. I wish the Florida legislature will pull their head out of their ass and fix this problem.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:59 AM
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The Tribe presently conducts and shall continue to conduct poker in each of its Facilities in compliance with provisions of Florida law, including provisions that limit wagers and pot sizes.

What I understand is they will have to abide by the state laws regarding poker. I’m assuming, and two of the floorguys agreed with me, is that they will have to close for 12 hours a day. I think any new gambling is good for the game because it builds tolerance from the general public. The Class III slots came and the world didn’t come to an end. I would only hope that this asinine 100 buyin crap will come to an end. Its really driving me crazy.

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I actually interpret this to allow 24 hour poker. An earlier draft of the compact specified that the Seminoles had to abide by provisions related to hours. This was removed in the final compact. The way I read this is that they currently conduct poker in a way that abides by Florida law as it relates to wager sizes and pot sizes but not to hours and they will continue to do so.

It's amazing to me that there are no limits to how much one can wager in slot machines, lottery tickets or pari mutuel wagering but there are limits to poker wagering. I wish the Florida legislature will pull their head out of their ass and fix this problem.

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Very few people see it as a problem. Of much bigger concern is trying to expand casino gambling.
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