One possible solution

[Flintoff]

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Hey moron, we can't play on party anymore.

And if the average 2+2 hudbot could, those tables would go the way of the dodo bird.

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Laughable.
Are Americans the only nation with players whose IQ is high enough to be a winning 'hudbot' player?

Party is the same as it ever was. Plenty of hudbots. More than enough fish to go around. You speak as if America has all the great players trapped within it's boundaries and we should be thankful for that. UTTER RUBBISH!!!

[MTBlue]

No fish? If you can't find the fish you are the fish. Tuff_Fish keep posting. I enjoy your perspective on poker. f*** all the haters.

[alphamale1]

When i was dreaming a few years ago, beginning of WPT popularity, I thought of a simmilar idea.

My angle though was to remove the DEALER from the revenue stream, saving the players 15-30 per hour in tips and saving the casino cost of a dealer. Casinos would also have many more hands dealt per hour per table. The casino would also not have to worry about chip security at the table since the casino would never have any chips on the table.
A prototype for this would be very doable.

My thought was to provide an automated poker table with monitors for each player. Each player's monitor would be embedded into the table and the player could lift up a screen to see their cards for Holdem. There would be monitor(s) in middle of table for holdem board cards. Chips would also be electronic. Print outs could be requested of your session or downloaded from home.

I started dreaming about this after hearing the same dealer at the Garbaj Mahal complain about tips at the table in different sessions. The table was 4 handed and I had tipped $4 in 1/2 period myself.

Of course, I'd prefer to have on-line poker provided, serviced by US casino corporations similar to what is being done today by Fulltilt, Party, etc.
I thought this no-dealer table this would be an intermediate step that would not raise any legal issues for the casino and could be a win-win situation for the player and the casino.

[Flintoff]

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When i was dreaming a few years ago, beginning of WPT popularity, I thought of a simmilar idea.

My angle though was to remove the DEALER from the revenue stream, saving the players 15-30 per hour in tips and saving the casino cost of a dealer. Casinos would also have many more hands dealt per hour per table. The casino would also not have to worry about chip security at the table since the casino would never have any chips on the table.
A prototype for this would be very doable.

My thought was to provide an automated poker table with monitors for each player. Each player's monitor would be embedded into the table and the player could lift up a screen to see their cards for Holdem. There would be monitor(s) in middle of table for holdem board cards. Chips would also be electronic. Print outs could be requested of your session or downloaded from home.

I started dreaming about this after hearing the same dealer at the Garbaj Mahal complain about tips at the table in different sessions. The table was 4 handed and I had tipped $4 in 1/2 period myself.

Of course, I'd prefer to have on-line poker provided, serviced by US casino corporations similar to what is being done today by Fulltilt, Party, etc.
I thought this no-dealer table this would be an intermediate step that would not raise any legal issues for the casino and could be a win-win situation for the player and the casino.

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Er, I was playing on one yesterday in Melbourne. They go by the name PokerPro. And no-one likes them.

[Tuff_Fish]

I think Hollywood Park has pretty much what you are talking about.

They use pokertek machines as I recall.

check out e poker on the B&M forum

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[alphamale1]

PLease tell me more. Does the casino charge the same for rake? Or, More? What don't players like about the table?
Are there obvious, correctable flaws?
I'd like to play on one of these tables assuming that I could save dealer tips. Also like the aspect of not having to examine the physical cards for marking and the shuffling of the dealer. Too many times I have seen Aces and Kings bent.

I googled Pokerpro and am looking at it now.
PokerPro® is the revolutionary poker table that shuffles, deals, splits pots and generates side pots instantly. It's the fastest and most accurate dealer in the world. And PokerPro® increases poker room revenue by dealing 50-60% more hands per hour than a manual table. That means 50-60% more rake. PokerPro® also reduces your overhead by requiring fewer staff while making the player experience more enjoyable. Players can sign up for games on their own and will never again complain of a misdeal, accidentally mucked cards or incorrectly split pots. And for casino operators and poker room mangers, that means fewer disputes to worry about. For casinos with or without poker rooms, PokerPro® is the smart solution. The Electronic Shuffler has been certified by the Gaming Laboratories International as a mathematically random process with equal probability for each card. In addition to the Shuffler, PokerPro® burns a card before each round of betting. PokerPro® is available in following game profiles: Texas Hold'Em, Omaha along with single and multi-table tournaments.

[Tuff_Fish]

Try these two links to find out more about the Hollywood Park implementation.

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[mo42nyy]

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Prediction: When/if online poker becomes "legal" in the US (spare me the crap about online poker is already legal, you are full of shi*), with freedom to advertise, the overseas sites will die. Futhermore, the US site(s) that DOES restrict the tables to one or two will be the one(s) that prospers. Fish don't want to play with sharks. If they know where to go so as to avoid sharks, at least tables full of sharks, they will.

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There has already been one room that did restrict you to one table at a time. It was called Pacific Poker. It did so well that when it upgraded its software to handle multiple tables, its playerbase immediately increased from 1 person to 3.

Another room still does stop people at 3 tables and only recently got any kind of PT support. It's called Bodog. Bodog is a nice site that is, admittedly, on the fishy side. Oddly enough, though, the multitabling HUDbots you refer to have no problem playing and winning tons of money without PT (at least, all of my friends did). Also, oddly enough, this limiting of its customers to 3 tables did not make Bodog the most popular site on the Internet overnight.

Perhaps you should rethink this position.

edit: For the record, last month, I played at non-Stars (non-PT) and had my winningest cash month ever by a large margin.

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Tuffish is 100% right. Eveer since bodog got PT support the games have been completly worthless. When pacific went from 1 table to 3 the games got a lot worse also.

[SlapPappy]

Why did Bodog do this? I thought they were against this?

[Tuff_Fish]

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Why did Bodog do this? I thought they were against this?

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I think the problem was technical. The Bodog HH were so screwed up that it took PokerTracker Pat a good while to get PTracker to work with them.

That is my understanding anyway.

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