Chomsky on Ron Paul

[xorbie]

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The 2+2 reactions to Chomsky's blog post are sad and funny. His objections to Paul's candidacy are not only cogent, but pretty much what you would expect him to say if you were familiar with his work. Here, however, his statements are met by insults and ad hominem attacks. I don't expect everyone to agree with Chomsky, but contrary to the claims here he is certainly not stupid, and he does have an idea of how the job market works.

Many of the libertarians and ACists on this forum come off as exhibiting extreme hubris and closed-mindedness. It's sad that it happens, but amusing in its predictability.

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The comments on the blog make it seem as though as soon as Paul takes presidency, the government will dissolve itself and corporations will rule the world.

In fact, corporations would likely gain more power under any other presidency, and Paul would be lucky to abolish the IRS, let alone half the other useless government agencies.

It's hyperbole. It's an attack on ACism disguised as an attack on Ron Paul, which uses very few actual facts about the situation the US is in, Paul's voting record or his platform. It's useless, it's inflammatory, and frankly it's contrary to everything Chomsky has ever written if he would actually support Clinton over Paul. End of story.

[Vagos]

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The 2+2 reactions to Chomsky's blog post are sad and funny. His objections to Paul's candidacy are not only cogent, but pretty much what you would expect him to say if you were familiar with his work. Here, however, his statements are met by insults and ad hominem attacks. I don't expect everyone to agree with Chomsky, but contrary to the claims here he is certainly not stupid, and he does have an idea of how the job market works.

Many of the libertarians and ACists on this forum come off as exhibiting extreme hubris and closed-mindedness. It's sad that it happens, but amusing in its predictability.

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lol

[boracay]

The anarchist movement is divided into many different factions that usually tend to wage war upon each other: communist anarchists against socialist anarchists against syndicalist anarchists against Christian anarchists against environmentalist anarchists against free-market, libertarian and voluntaryist anarchists.

Anarchism can mean many things, but for most anarchy movements it usually means means non-oppression, non-hierarchy, and thus equality among men. It has nothing to do with the exploitative, rule-based and oppressive system of capitalism. Yet there is a part of the anarchist movement calling themselves anarcho-capitalists.

[ALawPoker]

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The 2+2 reactions to Chomsky's blog post are sad and funny. His objections to Paul's candidacy are not only cogent, but pretty much what you would expect him to say if you were familiar with his work. Here, however, his statements are met by insults and ad hominem attacks. I don't expect everyone to agree with Chomsky, but contrary to the claims here he is certainly not stupid, and he does have an idea of how the job market works.

Many of the libertarians and ACists on this forum come off as exhibiting extreme hubris and closed-mindedness. It's sad that it happens, but amusing in its predictability.

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Irony much?

Why don't you actually explain what anyone has said that you disagree with and offer some sort of actual argument against it before you go around insulting people and dismissing our objections to what Chomsky said in that blog.

[lehighguy]

What is Chomsky an expert in again?

Oh yeah, he is a linguist. He is an expert in talking smooth. There is a big difference between talking smooth and thinking smooth.

[Dane S]

This doesn't sound like Chomsky to me. It sounds like a random self-assured politics forum newbie. I'd think the majority of regulars on this forum, AC or not, should be able to rip this to shreds.

Chomsky does have sort of a dumb-and-smug streak though in places, and quite an ego, so I guess it's possible that it's real. He's certainly brilliant and writes great stuff, but also a world class know-it-all.

[elwoodblues]

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What is Chomsky an expert in again?

Oh yeah, he is a linguist. He is an expert in talking smooth. There is a big difference between talking smooth and thinking smooth.

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One might even say he's a cunning linguist. As my wife always says, "Can't get me enough of that cunning linguist."

[Zygote]

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2) Can you please tell me what role "private property" and "ownership" have in your school of "Libertarianism"?

That would have to be worked out by free communities, and of course it is impossible to respond to what I would prefer in abstraction from circumstances, which make a great deal of difference, obviously.

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this is the funniest part where chomsky essentially refutes himself.

otherwise i dont know how claims to be an anarchist with his coinciding support for governmental organizations so long as the are for "his" ideas. He apparently likes them when they are coercively imposed. Chomsky = Lenin/Stalin

He wants to stay in the UN to try US officials as war criminals? lol! does he know who funds the UN?

[duvalinalong]

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2) Can you please tell me what role "private property" and "ownership" have in your school of "Libertarianism"?

That would have to be worked out by free communities, and of course it is impossible to respond to what I would prefer in abstraction from circumstances, which make a great deal of difference, obviously.

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this is the funniest part where chomsky essentially refutes himself.

otherwise i dont know how claims to be an anarchist with his coinciding views of governmental organization support for "his" ideas. He apparently likes them when they are coercively imposed. Chomsky = Lenin/Stalin

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Chomsky does not call himself and an anarchist. I don't where you people are pulling this from. In one of his interviews which was made into a book he described himself as "a mix of libertarian and socialism" He has always been very reluctant to put any political label on himself. What chomsky does in his writing is he simply digs after the truth and lays the facts out on the table. He is also a critic of pretty much every political figure. Don't get so defensive of your Ron Paul. Chomsky goes after everyone. Even my man JFK. Again, there are some things I like about Ron Paul. What I don't like about Ron Paul is his grassroots fan base that uses all too predictable republican name calling like calling him "chumpsky" If you want to seperate libertarianism form republicanism stop using the standard republican attack methods.

I have changed my mind recently.
I'm voting for Dennis Kucinch or however you spell his name
I really like this guy when i started reading about him.
Dennis Kucinch for president!!
Time for real change in Washington, vote Kucinch!

[GoodCallYouWin]

Chomsky does not call himself and an anarchist. I don't where you people are pulling this from.

"CHOMSKY: I was attracted to anarchism as a young teenager, as soon as I began to think about the world beyond a pretty narrow range, and haven't seen much reason to revise those early attitudes since. "

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/rbr/noamrbr2.html