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Old 09-04-2007, 08:47 AM
bottomset bottomset is offline
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Default .5/1 QJs IP

villian is unknown
my default isolation raise is to 5bb here, I must have missed the limper, doesn't really change things too much

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $114.90
BB: $65.95
UTG: $87.65
UTG+1: $72.45
MP1: $42.10
MP2: $33.80
MP3: $79.55
CO: $52.15
Hero (BTN): $111.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, SB calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Turn: ($20) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $43.00</font>

thoughts on calling the flop vs a raise

thoughts on the turn raise, I'm not sure how I feel about it, mainly I'm not sure I can rep enough good hands to make it really believable

the other question is size, here it leaves $60behind with around a 105 pot which I don't like for bluffing, but tends to be good for valuebetting, does anyone think this type of bluff is better served for when its around 140bb effective? where you have better leverage on the river
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:51 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 QJs IP

AK Float? Are villains observant enough to pick up on this kind of thing? In my experience they aren't, and I take the bluff too far.

I like the size of your raise though like you want him to call.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 QJs IP

I don't like it. An unknown has donked into you twice on a drawy board, and his turn bet is pretty big. It's a good card to bluff at, but this board sucks vs. an unknown.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:46 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 QJs IP

Your line looks like AK, so I think its believable.

The thing is, villain looks like he has at least 2 pair based on his line. You might fold out A9 or T9s (if they're not in spades). But 99, 88, 66, 98s, 78s, 67s, 97s, 57s, 77 are going to take this all the way.

Do you think TT, JJ, QQ are in his range? I would throw them out because of the lack of a re-raise preflop (QQ for sure, TT and JJ would depend on the player). Either way, he clearly liked the flop and I don't think you get a fold often enough here with what you're representing to make it good.

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Old 09-04-2007, 07:00 PM
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I don't like the turn bluff raise against an unknown villain. I would wait to until I knew more about them, that turn donk bet is a decent size, into what should be a scare card for the villain.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:02 PM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 QJs IP

I fold turn


I'm 50/50 raise/call on the flop
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:53 AM
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I hate bluffing unknowns, particularly when you don't know what that donk bet means. Smallish donk bets can be weak (draw, TPNK) but sometimes they're monsters. If he's any kind of station or fish there's lots of hands he could like enough to call you with... 77/67/68/TT/9T not to mention a 2pair/set or big pair.

If you had a read on this guy, particularly his aggression level and how he plays blind battles I'd like it a lot more.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: .5/1 QJs IP

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I fold turn

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I agree, I forgot to say that.
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