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Old 11-06-2007, 10:51 PM
Saxatilis Saxatilis is offline
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Default JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

First orbit at table so no reads, but SB is short with only 10BB on flop

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB bets, BB folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>?
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

Raises.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

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Raises.

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Old 11-06-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

With button to act I like raising, however if HU I could see an argument for waiting for the turn. Unless SB is a complete donk &amp; thinks u could raise OP's on the flop &amp; likes to stop n go with a 9 here, then raising flop hu is the best plan.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

Either raise here or raise on a safe turn card. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

What is a safe turn card? And do we fold if an A-Q hits? You are HU, you raise.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

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What is a safe turn card? And do we fold if an A-Q hits? You are HU, you raise.

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Nope we are 3handed (button is still to act), it's better to raise in this situation to protect our hand. If hu then there's a good reason to wait for turn to raise, however some ppl will put u on an overpair &amp; may fold if played this way. Therefore against those types u should generally raise flops as they'll want to look u up hoping u r raising OC's. Against donks/fish/SD monkeys I like popping the turn cause they'll always pay off.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

Good catch. Didn't notice button still left to act. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You're correct that we should be raising to try to get button to fold overcards. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

:g:

i'm a visionary.. I SEE YOU RAISING!
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: JJ raise from CO gets 5 callers w/paired board on flop

Simple raise. But call when he re-raises. If he's a decent player, he would have checked if he had hit trip 6s, to wait for some person who had overcards or a 9 split pair to bet the flop.
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