[10nl] AQ , good time to give up ?

[warchaser]

PokerStars Game #12449212936: Hold\'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/10/05 - 10:31:29 (ET)
Table \'Sylvia II\' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MichaelT_DK ($6.50 in chips)
Seat 2: kurschock22 ($14.05 in chips)
Seat 3: chef_bates35 ($1.70 in chips)
Seat 4: ashwullems ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 5: PutenDoener ($6.75 in chips)
Seat 6: pojo 5 ($8.30 in chips)
ashwullems: posts small blind $0.05
PutenDoener: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashwullems A Q
pojo 5: folds
MichaelT_DK: calls $0.10
kurschock22: raises $0.10 to $0.20
chef_bates35: calls $0.20
ashwullems: raises $0.80 to $1
PutenDoener: folds
MichaelT_DK: folds
kurschock22: calls $0.80
chef_bates35: folds
*** FLOP *** K 8 4
ashwullems: bets $1.50
kurschock22: calls $1.50
*** TURN *** K 8 4 5
ashwullems: checks
kurschock22: bets $2.10
ashwullems: ???

fold right, i figured i was beat
should i 2nd barrel the turn ?

[Nogatsira]

Eum?
What question is this?
You cbet, get called by a random guy where you don't have any reads on (at least you didnt write any) and then you want us to tell if you're behind here or not?

[thoman8r]

Looks fine. Against certain villains you can second barrel but readless at this level it's c/f.

Also, please use a hand converter. I use www.flopturnriver.com

[MrWooster]

Also - I think your flop c-bet is too small here isn't the pot about $2.50 - you need to bet at least $2 on this flop. As played easy fold - this is a good flop for you as it is unlikely to have hit villains range, and he is likely to fold underpairs - so a c-bet is good - but you are OOP so c/f turn...

[warchaser]

sorry nogatsira,

but my biggest leak is this sort of hands, where i don't really know if i should 2nd barrel
especially on 10nl i think firing 2 times isn't good

[Nogatsira]

Thats why I wonder why you ask. The flop isnt really drawy so if he calls he probably isnt drawing and already hit something on that flop. Just let it go here.

[Perk76]

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but my biggest leak is this sort of hands, where i don't really know if i should 2nd barrel
especially on 10nl i think firing 2 times isn't good

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Folding here is not a leak. You got a call on a dry board. Villan has something in this spot, even if mid pair. 2nd barrels should not happen in games where people dont fold. You need reads to consider 2nd barreling.

IMO 2nd barrels have a better success on boards that are drawy since there is a likely hood that the villan is drawing, and alot of the time they wont draw on 2 streets if they are taggish. Stations chase regardless.

[MrWooster]

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sorry nogatsira,

but my biggest leak is this sort of hands, where i don't really know if i should 2nd barrel
especially on 10nl i think firing 2 times isn't good

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I would strongly advise against 2nd barrelling here. I play a lot of 10NL and almost never fire a 2nd barrel without a really strong read, the average villain is simply not sophisticated enough to float. He is calling with any K....

Also you are OOP - this makes a HUGE difference.... I think that even at 10NL there can be certain situations to fire twice, but this is certainly not one of them.