My rebuttal to Mark Seif on RawVegas.TV

[KamiKatze]

I'm not fully convinced about POTRIPPER being able to see all hole cards...

Everyone can get lucky, i guess.

[Sponger.]

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Mark told me twice that he is an owner of AP.

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I really hope this isn't true because now all the stuff he has said is about 100x worse in my mind.

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A lucid, intelligent and appropriate response.

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overruled!!



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"two yutes"
"Uh, Mr. Gambini, two what?"
"oh excuse me sir, two YOUTHS"

[LuckyMux]

Absolutely (no pun intended) awesome rebuttal. Kudos, sir.

What we need now is for two or three big-name, honest pros to stand up and say something for the good of the game. The only pro who has said a single f*cking word about Absolute fraud is Mark Seif.

Everyone in the industry should publicly distance themselves from this sickening excuse for an online poker company. It was caught red-handed defrauding its own players, ffs. What more do they need to see? The autopsy?

Evil happens when good people do nothing.

[Alobar]

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One thing I don't understand (maybe this thread isn't the right place to ask though) is, what would the hand histories actually prove? The hand histories are just text files, it would be simple to alter them to make them appear like regular hhs even if Seif had access to a super-account.
Not providing the hand histories looks bad obviously, but would providing them really change anything?

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yeah, ive never really understood that either, it would be easy to just change them to something that makes his plays make sense if he was in fact cheating, and we'd never be able to prove otherwise. Which is why it wouldnt really help him even if he came forward with the hand histories, because if they exonerated him everyone would just say they were prolly doctored.

anyway, that was a pretty excellent piece by Dan Druff, I was very impressed. I expect there wont be a reply from seif.

[mntbikr15]

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Mark told me twice that he is an owner of AP.

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I really hope this isn't true because now all the stuff he has said is about 100x worse in my mind.

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According to NUMEROUS sources he has at least a large chunk of it

When hed get his ass handed to him in the lhe games(always)hed brag about how cause of his ownership of AP this was pocket change to him

[Suigin406]

just saw this, nice one

[Alobar]

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Absolutely (no pun intended) awesome rebuttal. Kudos, sir.

What we need now is for two or three big-name, honest pros to stand up and say something for the good of the game. The only pro who has said a single f*cking word about Absolute fraud is Mark Seif.

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any pro with a name is endorsed by an online poker site themselves, and im sure they are under orders to not make any comments about the situation.

[Joymachine21]

Just seen the video, you carried yourself and very well todd and i also like how you keep the focus on getting answers and not a personnal fight between yourself and him. WP imo

[Alobar]

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Mark told me twice that he is an owner of AP.

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I really hope this isn't true because now all the stuff he has said is about 100x worse in my mind.

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According to NUMEROUS sources he has at least a large chunk of it

When hed get his ass handed to him in the lhe games(always)hed brag about how cause of his ownership of AP this was pocket change to him

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Will someone explain this to me. How are people who supposedly are owners of these poker sites (people talk about some of the fulltilt pros also being owners) not being arrested by the US government when there have been multiple owners of online casinos arrested the minute they set foot on american soil? Is it because they arent actually owners, or is it because its just set up to where it cant be proven they are owners, or what?