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Old 12-01-2007, 11:46 AM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

Villain is a multi-tabling TAG who is running 12/10 over 75ish hands, and should view me as TAG also.

How do you weight his range after his 4bet?

What is your play?

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BB: $188.35
UTG: $701.70
CO: $313.60
BTN: $30.60
Hero (SB): $232

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $65</font>, Hero ???
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

12/10? I know stats aren't really reliable over that few hands, but this guy probably has aces or kings every time here.

Vs. most other players I get it in here nearly always as this is a steal situation, but here, ugh looks like a fold.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

12/10's never 4 bet other than 85% AA or 15% KK imo.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

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12/10's never 4 bet other than 85% AA or 15% KK imo.

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you fold KK here then?
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

no, i'd never fold KK here. not in 6m.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:12 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

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no, i'd never fold KK here. not in 6m.

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Given your analysis, you should.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:10 PM
SinkRox SinkRox is offline
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

easy fold vs someone that nitty, though i probably felt kk due to all the money in the pot... and even tho he's 10pfr theres still a small chance he may still make this bet with ak.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

Even if you know he could have AK, you have to fold. You're either a slight favorite or a 4:1 dog, meaning he's gotta have AK nearly all of the time for your equity to be any good.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:14 PM
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no, i'd never fold KK here. not in 6m.

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Given your analysis, you should.

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Those look like they're 2 different people.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: QQ getting 4-bet OOP PF by TAG

I think this depends on the table. If it's one of those tables where there are a bunch of regs at the table trying to outspew each other, I'd go all in.

If it's a table with a couple of donks and pretty much everyone is in line because they just want to beat up on the fish, fold.
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