Watch me play UB bots LIVE 50-100 Limit

[teddyFBI]

A few naive Qs:

i) are there well-known bots who play 6max and full tables, not just HU?

ii) If the bots are THAT obvious (and no, i haven't quite followed along w/ everyone else), WHY doesn't someone make it their personal mission to bring it to UB's attention...and yeah yeah yeah, I know they have god-awful CS, and it sometimes takes a few attempts to get someone who speaks half-decent engrish to answer your Q, but this is serious enough that with a little persistence, it seems like they'd be unable to ignore the problem, no? I mean, Party/Empire had arguably the worst CS in the biz, but when we discovered the Saabpo and other SNG bots, I personally sent at least 10 emails about them, and yeah, most of them got retarded stock answers, but i finally got a CS supervisor to sit up and take notice, and Saabpo et al got the boot. Wouldn't a little persistence pay off here?

[MrGatorade]

Victor,

Isaac and I have over 11K+ hands and yes he is a bot with juicy. 100% Known bot is isacc168. Isaac after I sat out on him played 1 hand then waited 5 mins and repeated the process for over 2 and a half hours 6 months ago before I went to Iraq. Once again Isaac168 is 100% a bot. If a known bot chats it just means that the user is at the computer and the auto play portion of the bot is off till the user decides to turn it back on. The bots are very good at taking HU and turning it into a mathamatics and statistics problems and ocassionally throwing well timed bluffs in. These bots with Kung_Poa as the first known bot to use player modeling. It uses poker tracker and adjusts it game agasint an individul player not just a set standards of if/then statments. Very scary to see how bots have evolved ever since I started tracking them and hating on them for over 3 years now. This is becoming a very serious problem and is only going to get worse only sites care about the integrity other then the rake that the bots obviously prodeuce for them just like me and you.

[crt-raise]

Human: Do you know Lori?
ALICE: No, tell me about him, her or it.
Human: You spoke with her earlier
ALICE: I haven't heard anything like that before: unknown person said I spoke with her earlier.
Human: You must talk to a lot of people
ALICE: Whatever you say, unknown person.
Human: You shouldn't highlight the fact that you don't know my name
ALICE: Is it immoral or illegal?
Human: no, just impolite
ALICE: Are you serious? Do you often seek pleasure?
Human: slow down
ALICE: Are you free?
Human: slow down
ALICE: Do not ask me any more questions please.
Human: The Loebner prize?
ALICE: The Loebner Prize is an annual Turing Test sponsored by New York philanthropist Hugh Loebner. Dr. Wallace and ALICE won it in 2000. The ALICE program was ranked "most human computer" by the panel of judges.
Human: Oh, but how much did you lose?
ALICE: Right on. Interesting. More than a little, less than a lot.

stupid Alice

[Victor]

mrg, here are some other regulars i see all the time.

ccty
blacktomato
trimalchio
piejay
djhak
trimalchio
mmcc
kombarus
onateboy
boykilla
clandesterous
seafarer
dabooey
quaternion
yes i did
bluehorseshue
trivium777_

[teddyFBI]

No one answered my Q:
do any of the "known bots" play anything OTHER than heads-up?

And Gatorade: can you please post what your iron-clad evidence is about your certainty about the fact that these are bots? Maybe it's obvious to others in this thread, but I haven't quite followed...

[Neko]

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No one answered my Q:
do any of the "known bots" play anything OTHER than heads-up?


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No. they only sit at 50/100 tables waiting for someone to sit.

[teddyFBI]

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No one answered my Q:
do any of the "known bots" play anything OTHER than heads-up?


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No. they only sit at 50/100 tables waiting for someone to sit.

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Alright, and so what's "exploitable" about them? Or am I reading MrGatorade's post incorrectly...is there some way to jump in and out of the game exploiting like a blind trick or something?

[Neko]

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mrg, here are some other regulars i see all the time.

piejay

clandesterous



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I'm pretty sure piejay is legit. He often plays in the full 150/300 and 3/6 games when they used to run. He also plays NL sometimes.

Not sure about Clan, but I think he's probably legit too. He never really plays anything but HU but occasionally, he'll play a few hands if a table gets 3 or 4 handed but generally quits pretty quickly once a table starts to fill up.

I played bmw750i yesterday for 20 or so hands...his timing was v. v. consistent but I couldn't say with any certainty. I just hit and ran him because I wanted to play a bot [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[Victor]

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mrg, here are some other regulars i see all the time.

piejay

clandesterous



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I'm pretty sure piejay is legit. He often plays in the full 150/300 and 3/6 games when they used to run. He also plays NL sometimes.

Not sure about Clan, but I think he's probably legit too. He never really plays anything but HU but occasionally, he'll play a few hands if a table gets 3 or 4 handed but generally quits pretty quickly once a table starts to fill up.

I played bmw750i yesterday for 20 or so hands...his timing was v. v. consistent but I couldn't say with any certainty. I just hit and ran him because I wanted to play a bot [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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meh, i threw a few real ones in there on purpose.

edit: oh btw, from the rumor mill via our friend zeig apparently "yes i did" lost over 100k to bmw in one session. exageration? regardless, zeig insists ub is rigged lol.

[Neko]

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It uses poker tracker and adjusts it game agasint an individul player not just a set standards of if/then statments

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Mr. Gatorade, did they stop playing when UB stopped allowing an infinite number of hand histories to be recorded, and then re-appear when UB upped the limit to 100 hands again?