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Old 10-25-2007, 12:37 PM
Rococo Rococo is offline
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Jeff - There is a strong inverse correlation between income and population growth.

You might also want to read up on James Watson (the daddy of DNA) and his views on the issue.

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Are you suggesting that the OP would agree with Watson, or that you agree with Watson? I hope not.

Watson article on race
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:43 PM
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Rococo - excluding the "black employee" comment, Watson's views are simply a more refined version of the OP's thesis. I don't know if Watson is correct or not.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:54 PM
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Jeff - There is a strong inverse correlation between income and population growth.

You might also want to read up on James Watson (the daddy of DNA) and his views on the issue.

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Are you suggesting that the OP would agree with Watson, or that you agree with Watson? I hope not.

Watson article on race

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I have a question for you. Lets just pretend the standardized IQ test is an accurate indicator of intelligence. And lets just pretend that the average IQ score for a negro (85) is half way between mental retardation (70) and the average for white people (100). Would you still find Watson racist? And lets just pretend that east Asians and Jews are higher than whites. Would you consider anyone that claims East Asians smarter than the average white as racist?

Just asking a hypothetical question to see how open ones mind is.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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Jeff - There is a strong inverse correlation between income and population growth.

You might also want to read up on James Watson (the daddy of DNA) and his views on the issue.

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Are you suggesting that the OP would agree with Watson, or that you agree with Watson? I hope not.

Watson article on race

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I have a question for you. Lets just pretend the standardized IQ test is an accurate indicator of intelligence. And lets just pretend that the average IQ score for a negro (85) is half way between mental retardation (70) and the average for white people (100). Would you still find Watson racist? And lets just pretend that east Asians and Jews are higher than whites. Would you consider anyone that claims East Asians smarter than the average white as racist?

Just asking a hypothetical question to see how open ones mind is.

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One would also have to assume that intelligence is an immutable characteristic that is fixed at birth and unaffected by nutrition, education, etc.

If all those assumptions were true, and I strongly believe that they are not, the issue would be trickier.

Even then, one would have little basis for making a blind assumption about an individual person's intelligence based on skin color.

In any case, Watson's statement that, "even though he hopes everyone is equal, people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true," reveals him as an old-fashioned racist.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:10 PM
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I have a basic theory that is probably not popular, and is also easily misunderstood, so I rarely discuss it. In a nutshell, I think the world population (of humans) is too high and population growth should be stopped.

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Rainbow 6 anyone?
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:12 PM
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Jeff - There is a strong inverse correlation between income and population growth.

You might also want to read up on James Watson (the daddy of DNA) and his views on the issue.

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Are you suggesting that the OP would agree with Watson, or that you agree with Watson? I hope not.

Watson article on race

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I have a question for you. Lets just pretend the standardized IQ test is an accurate indicator of intelligence. And lets just pretend that the average IQ score for a negro (85) is half way between mental retardation (70) and the average for white people (100). Would you still find Watson racist? And lets just pretend that east Asians and Jews are higher than whites. Would you consider anyone that claims East Asians smarter than the average white as racist?

Just asking a hypothetical question to see how open ones mind is.

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One would also have to assume that intelligence is an immutable characteristic that is fixed at birth and unaffected by nutrition, education, etc.

If all those assumptions were true, and I strongly believe that they are not, the issue would be trickier.

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Do you know what hypothetical means? The rules I laid out clearly stated that "pretend the standardized IQ test is an accurate indicator of intelligence". Now, I repeat this question in a hypothetical situation.

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Even then, one would have little basis for making a blind assumption about an individual person's intelligence based on skin color.

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In the very same article you referenced: He also said people should not be discriminated against because of their color, adding that "there are many people of color who are very talented."

So it would appear that in this sentence he is not claiming that all people of color are of low intelligence. Maybe he misspoke, maybe he is racist, maybe the reporter fabricated a quote which they are infamous for doing. I don't know and I don't care. I'm simply interested in the concept that people are different. Again, my question about the hypothetical situation still stands.

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Please note, I am a strong proponent of widespread acceptance of genetic diversity. However, I find peoples inability to accept certain concepts of genetic diversity rather curious.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:05 PM
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And lets just pretend that east Asians and Jews are higher than whites.

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~800 Nobel Prizes have been awarded. Oddly, 180 (22.5%) went to Jews, who make up ~0.2% of the world population.

But, yeah, the Jews are probably just running good. Positive variance FTW. Definitely no way that Jews are just vastly smarter than Gentiles. No way.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:13 AM
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Jeff - There is a strong inverse correlation between income and population growth.

You might also want to read up on James Watson (the daddy of DNA) and his views on the issue.

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Are you suggesting that the OP would agree with Watson, or that you agree with Watson? I hope not.

Watson article on race

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so because watson is a racist, you don't believe in the double helix?
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