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Old 11-24-2007, 10:12 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default (value) bet this turn?

hero is LMP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

loose asian guy limps in ep. he's straightforward but knows how to bet and raise his good hands. i've seen him c/r before when he hits.

white guy on my right limps in mp. he's sort of a bad tag, i guess. he has donked into me before on a coordinated board after my pfr, but he didn't get to showdown.

i raise.

loose/passive, stupid-tricky guy coldcalls.

lp asian dude coldcalls on the button.

tight bb folds. everyone else calls.

* FLOP * 5 players, 11 sb
Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

mp weak tag donks, i raise, button calls, ep asian calls, mp calls.

* TURN * 4 players, 9 bb
J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

checks to me, i...?
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:04 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

Uh, hmmm, wow this is a toughie. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Bet, for Shania's sake. Why wouldn't you? You've got somewhere between 9 and 15 outs against anything that might be out there, and 3 opponents.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

yeah, i'd bet it for sanity reasons and all the usual ones too.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

I guess the question is, why wouldn't you bet the turn? Why are you second guessing?
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

bet and call. LDO
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

I'd lead this turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Nobody has played back after your flop raise. You have a great made hand and a redraw to the nuts.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:29 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

Grunch:
Bet/Call you have top pair and and a nut flush draw. If you hit your flush on the river maybe your flush will be disguised a bit and it will pay off well.

ps: practice being more racial tolerance
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:10 AM
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ps: practice being more racial tolerance

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i didn't realize i was being racial intolerance?
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

I understand.. it's okay
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: (value) bet this turn?

ok so no one is worried about getting c/r'd on a QJ98 board? it's true that we have outs if behind, but why pay two bets to draw? surely we don't have the best hand very often against three opponents, and we don't have enough opponents to bet for value -- if everyone were to call we would need ~12 outs to fashion an equity edge here.
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