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Old 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM
Herrigel Herrigel is offline
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Default KK lay down - quick check

Villain is 20/12/2, folds 75% to c-bets, 2500 hands sample
SB is some random TAG, as I am

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $282.18
BB: $197.80
UTG: $188
Hero (CO): $260.25
BTN: $331.45

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($23) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $45</font>, SB folds, Hero folds
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i shove here everytime and if i go broke then i go broke
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

wtf @ folding? I dont get it. Does he have a history of just calling w 88+ here?

I think I can find a fold If he pushes over a 4-bet, but this seems so weak tight.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

good laydown
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

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good laydown

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...because????????????????
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

in position itd be easier to call and re-evaluate, 4bet folding isnt terrible against straightforwards opponents though.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i dont think it matters what you do here
if u have 2.5k hands a little more about villain would help though
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i think since button has position and 1 person behind him hes less likely to make a light 3bet here
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

These are the types of hands that constitute my major leak. I usually will play these strongly against someone who is fairly aggro., with the thinking that my equity is good because he will play this way with enough draws and 88-QQ hands. The problem, of course, is that 3-betting will fold some of those 88+ and drawing hands, making my equity worse for the hands he'll call.

In any event, this guy is on the borderline. He's not very aggro or very passive. You probably should find a fold, but I don't really know .... these are tough spots.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

depends so much on the player, GET SOME READS! folding, calling, or raising can all be good depending on villain's tendencies.
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