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Old 10-29-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

I like 4bet with AK here esp because we are OOP postflop. as played I can't see any worse hand calling (especially from a nit) a flop craise. QQ, JJ, AQ, AJ are hands in his range that will prob fold to a craise. so if we have him beat at this point, he has 2-6outs. otoh, if he has us beat, A is the only card that can save us. We should check call the flop to get value here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

Calling is ok preflop, if you plan on making moves on some flops, people dont expect you to call with AK OOP, so they probably wont weight your range towards As and Kings.

Once you flop TTP, yes, you're going broke every time.

Think in ranges, not results.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

why does top 2 even matter in a 3/bet pot? If the villain is 3/betting an UTG with a standard range of 99+ AJ+, then top 2 doesn't really make a difference.

Against AQ/AJ top 2 doesn't help anything, you have the best hand already. Against TT+ top 2 only makes things more difficult against a tight 3/betting range where with significant heat they are more than likely to pickup a set.

in a 3/bet pot, I'd infinitely rather have TPTK than top 2 w/ AK. In a 3/bet pot, would you prefer to get it AI on a A82 board? or AKQ AKJ AKT board?
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

as played a c/c is fine.

But i really like a 4 bet pf. If he pushes pf you can then decide what to do.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

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why does top 2 even matter in a 3/bet pot? If the villain is 3/betting an UTG with a standard range of 99+ AJ+, then top 2 doesn't really make a difference.

Against AQ/AJ top 2 doesn't help anything, you have the best hand already. Against TT+ top 2 only makes things more difficult against a tight 3/betting range where with significant heat they are more than likely to pickup a set.

in a 3/bet pot, I'd infinitely rather have TPTK than top 2 w/ AK. In a 3/bet pot, would you prefer to get it AI on a A82 board? or AKQ AKJ AKT board?

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excellent point. you are dead right

sorry about earlier, i didn't notice it was only 14 hands, i should read the OP properly. i still don't mind mucking AK OOP, either that or 4betting
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

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as played a c/c is fine.

But i really like a 4 bet pf. If he pushes pf you can then decide what to do.

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if he pushes we have to call with AK surely
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

yes i think so. a bit deeper and you can make it a small enough 4 bet to fold.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

i see no way ur not going broke, 14 hands is nothing
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

idk how .5 1 is playing these days

but id usually 4bet pre, and maybe donk this flop with the intention of 3bet shoving it...
as played i C/R but not AI, then open shove turn
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: nl 100, AKs, do I go broke?

c/f flop.

Sriously tho.... wtf? 14 hands is what? <2.5 rotations. What he 3-bet me? I just called?!?! (oops) I flope top 2. He's c-bet me? On an AKT flop... Whats a boy to do.

Raise. Call. Win.

or

Raise. Call. Lose.
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