(10NL) AK flops 2nd nut flush draw, family pot

[Ampelmann]

MP1 is pretty loose preflop, not much on his postflop play. BB is loose/aggro preflop and weak-passive postflop (28/8/0.9). Nothing else known.

Do you c-bet? As played do you call?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.70
UTG+1: $8.85
MP1: $5.50
Hero: $10.65
MP3: $11.25
CO: $8.60
Button: $11.45
SB: $9.35
BB: $11.75

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.55, 4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets $1</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, Hero?

[mack848]

I fold.

You need to hit a 9 outer to take this and might end up with an expensive second best hand if you do hit. You don't have any real implied odds, as your hand is obvious.

[jhill3535]

MP3 is probably only betting here because he is checked to. You could easily have 12 outs here and maybe even 15. You are directly getting 4.5-1 on the call, and given 12 outs, you don't need nearly that much, which should make up for them times that you improve to a 2nd best hand. You need to improve to a winner ~18% of the time to make the call here given the pot odds.

[emediquei]

I don't think you can c-bet here against 4 opponents, because it will be very hard to take down the pot and you don't really want to make this a big pot.
The bet is very small, probably a bluff, but the BB has already called, so a raise is also too risky. I just call here and reevaluate on the turn.

[zman2245]

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I don't think you can c-bet here against 4 opponents, because it will be very hard to take down the pot and you don't really want to make this a big pot.


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Just wondering - what are your thoughts for cbetting, not necessarily to take it down, but to try to get us position for the rest of the hand? Also, a bet might get us a free card on turn. Just some thoughts....

[emediquei]

Yeah, I guess that could work. I wouldn't be very comfortable making that move because of the possibility of a raise. But I really can't say if it's better or worse than c/c.
I agree that it does look like a good move. If we get position, a blank hits and it's checked to us on the turn, we still have the options of firing a second barrel or just checking for a free card. Maybe someone else can give their opinion?