a frush against morons

[Hobbs.]

FT 3/6

CO is a complete idiot (90/10/0.75 over 1k hands) although I haven't seen him do very much dumb aggresive stuff postflop. BB is a 55/20 moron.

(6 handed)
CO open limps, I jack it up with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], sb folds, bb calls

flop (6.5 sb) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
CO donks, I raise, bb calls, CO calls

turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
check, check, check

river 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB bets, CO raises, I....

Paused for a little while on the river here. Is calling or 3 balling best?

[kross]

Calling and going for the overcall from BB probably nets you the same as 3-betting, since BB will most likely then fold if you 3-bet. This also has the benefit of not getting capped by CO if you are behind.

[jstill]

id call river pretty much no matter the players descriptions, what differing player profiles would make people do what?

also what do u guys think of the flop? always raise here? always raise if bb donks and CO calls? how about BB donks and CO folds? How do player descriptions figure into this decision?

[Gib]

I'd only 3bet if I think BB is a big enough moron to call 2 on the river, otherwise going for an overcall isn't too bad of an option here.

[SuperUberBob]

Heads up, I'd probably raise. But with two in, an overcall is fine.

[context]

You turned your cards up on the turn (checking through after no third flush card will put everyone onto the idea you're on the draw), then you raise the third flush card. It should be obvious to anyone what you have, a raise shouldn't get you any more chips unless they really are awful (I know a few players who would call two on this river with nothing, but they're few and far between).

[shane88888]

I go for the overcall. We only have the 13th-nuts here and the CO is very passive.

[Wolfram]

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also what do u guys think of the flop? always raise here?


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I was wondering the same thing. Why raise? We probably have little to no FE and there's very little value in raising this hand vs a villain that is showdown bound. You're only isolating yourself. I'd overcall to let BB in with any 2.