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Old 10-15-2007, 11:21 PM
dlpnyc21 dlpnyc21 is offline
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Default value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

Match has been going for a while, Hazards has been killing me thus far in the match, he's been playing 49/41 (pretty loose aggro for hu), with position stats of 77/77 from the btn and 20/5 from the BB. I have been playing a bit tighter from the btn, but reraising more frequently OOP, playing 22/8 from the BB. He won a bit pot when we got it AI on the flop with my nut flush draw v. his q2 on a 226hh board, and once we got it in on J9x board where he had QQ and I had 108 (he reraised pre and I raised flop and called his shove). He also won a big hand where he reraised pre and I called with A9, flop K99, he had KK.

In general, he has made some moves on flops, the one significant hand that comes to mind is when I rr pre with AQ, bet a low card flop, which he called, and I double barreled the T turn, which he called again. River went check check and his AT was good. Thus, he knows I am capable of double barreling. Also, when he did have trips in the single raised pot he raised my CR, and in another hand where he stacked me on an AA2 board when I cr'd he min 3-bet, when I had Ax and he had 222 (money in on turn).

What hand is he repping when he raises the turn here? I am not sure he would float and get it in here with Kx, and AK would likely 4-bet given the flow of the match, and I am not even sure he would raise turn if he hit given the way he played the AT hand earlier.

I just felt I was ahead, so I shoved. Spew, or good play.

Note: I know hu hands are so hard to analyze in a vaccuum, so I tried to include some details. His aggression factor per street has been 4.5/3.2/4.4/9.5 overall 4.3

Thanks,
dlpnyc21




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Hero ($4645)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $250</font>, Button calls $175.

Flop: ($500) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $355</font>, Button calls $355.

Turn: ($1210) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero SHOVES???
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:25 AM
EmpireMaker2 EmpireMaker2 is offline
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

Seems terrible vs hazards I would just fold the turn
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:40 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

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Seems terrible vs hazards I would just fold the turn

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Old 10-16-2007, 01:47 AM
zwolfe05 zwolfe05 is offline
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

id call and reevaluate, most likely folding to a river shove.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

Uh, wow. I would have played every street differently. 10/25 against an aggro may be a bit over your head...
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

He has a King, fold.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

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He has afive and is hoping you're firing a king here on the turn so he can stack you, fold.

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Old 10-16-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

why would this ever be a value shove?? seems terrible to me i would guess he has a 5, 77 or floated and hit the king most of the time.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

Don't know what shoving turn does other than burns money real fast. He'll almost fold a better hand, and it's like like he's raising turn there with A7. If he bluffs so much I'd much prefer to call here, but if he bluffs so much I'd give him way more leeway and checked the turn in the first place.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: value shove v. hazards, HU 10/25...

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He has afive and is hoping you're firing a king here on the turn so he can stack you, fold.

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ya that too
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