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Old 08-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Huggy Huggy is offline
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Default JJ 200NL Spew?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($242.95)
Button ($381)
SB ($249)
BB ($360.75)
Hero ($183.55)
MP ($200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $174</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $127

Should i have folded PF or c/f flop?

Villian is very aggro: 32/26/3.7
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:19 AM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

I think given stats alone, I c/r flop allin
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:21 AM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

It's a tough one, because those stats are very LAGGY, but you've raised UTG and he's taking you on from UTG+1. I actually don't think folding preflop can be that terrible. Villain's range has to be pretty narrow for this move, and you'll be bluffed off a lot on flops like this, and you'll get it in bad a lot on underscard flops.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

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I think given stats alone, I c/r flop allin

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"THIS IS MADNESS !" lol. I mean if he calls were crushed? And so im turning JJ into a bluff?
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

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I think given stats alone, I c/r flop allin

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"THIS IS MADNESS !" lol. I mean if he calls were crushed? And so im turning JJ into a bluff?

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His point is that villain's range is wide enough to CR bluff.

I disagree, but if you change your table position to CO and button then this would be almost standard.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:29 AM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

you beat a lot of his range.

And no, you won't get called by worse hands unless they're draws.
But you have no choice in a reraised pot on that board OOP. You can't really play pot control here. And most turn cards are going to make you cringe.

You beat enough of his range to just check, he bets, and close your eyes and go allin
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:58 AM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

Yeah, check-raising the flop all-in is NOT that bad here given his stats.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

Those of you advocating CRAI on flop: What boards would you not do this on? What boards would you be more happy to do this on?
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

one overcard really isn't that scary of a board, honestly

I mean, would it be so much better if you crai on a flop that's not king high? Because although the king hurts your equity a fair amount, it's not THAT bad of a card for you
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: JJ 200NL Spew?

on an ace-high flop do i c/f ? or is a crai still good?
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