calling down a maniac

Axiom27 · #1 04-13-2006, 09:22 AM

Villan will play any ace and most face cards for multiple raises preflop. Standard river call? I was 90% sure the donk meant an ace. Do I call anyway for future hands?

Limit: $10/$20
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Axiom27 is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Axiom27 raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Axiom27 calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Axiom27 raises, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Axiom27 bets, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Axiom27 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB

mute · #2 04-13-2006, 09:49 AM

If you are 90% sure then pot odds dictate a fold. If he really is a maniac, then I don't know how you can be so sure.

gemmer · #3 04-13-2006, 10:02 AM

Standard call imo. Aggressive players like to donk(bluff) such a rivercard. This time he had an Ace, next time he'll have KT, QJ, QT or worse.

cartman · #4 04-13-2006, 10:38 AM

You need a very good reason to fold any pair against a maniac, regardless of the circumstances. Folding second pair for one bet on the river would be a crime against humanity.

Jeffage · #5 04-13-2006, 10:56 AM

This is a simple call in a short game - he may just bet bc he was gonna call anyway and the ace is a scare card. For what it's worth, I wait for the turn to raise here. If it was king high rags, I may just let him bet the whole way and possibly raise on the river (basically, just ensure a bet goes in every street). I mix this up a decent bit though.

Jeff

The Bryce · #6 04-13-2006, 02:39 PM

People donk / fold all kinds of crap on the river. I wouldn't be surprsied to see a Q or 7 here. Not at all.

Zele · #7 04-13-2006, 03:11 PM

Against a maniac I prefer to just call the flop bet and wait to pop him on an expensive street, unless he's one of those rare uber-maniacs who will never stop raising with anything.