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Old 08-31-2007, 10:57 AM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default ATo, on the button.

Online 5-10 shorthanded, playing 5 handed at the moment.

Villian is 39/4/.41 with only 30 hands in the database.

I openraise ATo on the button. SB folds, Villian calls in the BB.

Flop, T77 rainbow. BB donks, I call.

Turn, J. BB bets, I call.

River 9 BB bets, I call.

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Old 08-31-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

I would raise the turn and fold to 3 vs this guy.
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Old 08-31-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

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I would raise the turn and fold to 3 vs this guy.

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If you raise the turn, and he calls, do you bet the river? Fold to a river checkraise?

I was trying to balance value I got here by being ahead, with the price I would have to pay if I was behind.

If he had a ten, on the river, I was also behind, JT, T9, and T8. But at the same time, I was wondering if I shouldn't get a raise in somewhere with TPTK.

It also concerned me, that some good players might be donking this flop with a 7, looking for a chance to threebet.

And at the same time, I wondered if he had some random bluff, if I wouldn't lose my customer with a raise.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

dont you think you're missing too much value vs. QT, KT, Tx, any PP, etc?

and i would think any PP would look you up on this board, as your turn raise looks suspicious.

fwiw if I raised the turn, i would bet/fold the river against most opponents (some like to bluff on any 4 card straight board regardless of previous action, so against them i wouldnt fold).
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

nh, bob t.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

I like it Bob.. no need to get crazy here.
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

bob, fine as played imo
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

against this guy you *could* value-raise the river. the board will protect you and he'll usually payoff any hand you beat that he's betting anyway. absolutely must fold to a 3bet, though. since it's thin to begin with, we may gain more value just guaranteeing a showdown.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: ATo, on the button.

I like the WA/WB line here against a probable passive opponent.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:35 PM
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Ok, I played WA/WB on this hand, and it turned out that I was WA. My opponent had pocket 4s, and I think with the board as scary as it was at the end, a raise, probably wouldn't have gotten paid off.

The only real question, is if I knew what he had, and I had raised the turn, would he have paid me off, there, and again on the river, or would I have lost out on one bet, by being more aggressive.

I posted it, because I thoought that it was a pretty common situation that was a kinda interesting.
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